Thunder Snow, and the forgotten BEST prep race

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by taxicab

The first two I see like this:
AD: I just don't think they can afford to take a hold of him,he looks speed crazy.
He might have a healthy lead turning for home..........kind of a Bodie deal.
JBE: Dale Romans @ CD........nuff said.
IWC: I wasn't big on him,but when RBE posted the weather call for the weekend that changed things.
IWC pedigree sure seems mud friendly,Curlin on top/Polish Navy on the bottom.
If the track does come up soupy,I will drop Irap and add IWC.

When has Always Dreaming been speed crazy? He sat comfortably in the Florida Derby.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

When has Always Dreaming been speed crazy? He sat comfortably in the Florida Derby.

Always Dreaming has been a head case ever since he got there. TAP is trying everything in the book to get him to settle & rate to no avail thus far. I predict he's going to freak the fuk out in front of that crowd, break completely unrateable (especially with an inside draw) and be cooked after 7/8ths.

IRC is the only one of your 3 I'm considering.

[taxicab]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

When has Always Dreaming been speed crazy? He sat comfortably in the Florida Derby.

He never has,but he hit Kentucky and now he thinks he's Chinook Pass.
Not sure why.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by taxicab

He never has,but he hit Kentucky and now he thinks he's Chinook Pass.
Not sure why.

Wow, you really went old school with that one.

[Mike]

Thunder Snow winning the Criterium International on turf: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcDb1Ywuh5Y

2000 Guineas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWa0X1qdK7Y

[Mike]

Thunder Snow is 2 for 2 on dirt, both at Dubai. Is this the same Dubai track that was made to be similar to Churchill Downs?

[KidCruz]

I don't know. I really want to like him and make him a key. But everywhere I look, people I respect immensely consider him an auto-toss because he's coming from overseas.

The figure making on the DWC day seems to have been tough due to track conditions that were changing and difficult to quantify. That said, on raw time, he ran about as fast as Arrogate, did he not? All the figures seem to be just slightly too tethered to Master Plan. He has obvious questions, not the least of which is the challenging travel/training pattern but he looks fast and in a field full of question marks, I am giving him a serious look.

[Cpt.Bodgit]

[quote=KidCruz;1090169]I don't know. I really want to like him and make him a key. But everywhere I look, people I respect immensely consider him an auto-toss because he's coming from overseas.




Pretty much the same view i have. I was hoping to see more people at least giving him a shot and I would be all in. So it does scare me seeing so many auto-tosses for sure. Having said that I won't let anyone talk me off of him. It will just cost me more to use him with others I like (Classic Empire, IWC, McCracken)

Looking forward to hearing how he looks on the track and his post.

[Secretriat34]

Originally Posted by Mike

Thunder Snow is 2 for 2 on dirt, both at Dubai. Is this the same Dubai track that was made to be similar to Churchill Downs?

nice video on TS in the criterium.
That colt lays his body down in every effort

[taxicab]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Wow, you really went old school with that one.

When I started hanging out at the track,he was the first "quick" horse I knew about.
Still the quickest in my book.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by taxicab

When I started hanging out at the track,he was the first "quick" horse I knew about.
Still the quickest in my book.

Chinook Pass is one of those obscure and forgotten horses from the past who should be remembered more. He was awesome.

[taxicab]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

When has Always Dreaming been speed crazy? He sat comfortably in the Florida Derby.

Thoro-graph seems to like your guy quite a bit,he really improved off of his previous.
They have his most recent number tied for the best.........without looking,can you guess which horse tied him for the best last race number ?

[tywizard]

Originally Posted by taxicab

Thoro-graph seems to like your guy quite a bit,he really improved off of his previous.
They have his most recent number tied for the best.........without looking,can you guess which horse tied him for the best last race number ?

Careful stating that TG likes him.

Also, the statement isn't true. Assuming you're talking about Always Dreaming he does not have the fastest last race from TG. IWC does. 2.25 faster than FL Derby winner.

[taxicab]

Originally Posted by tywizard

Careful stating that TG likes him.

Also, the statement isn't true. Assuming you're talking about Always Dreaming he does not have the fastest last race from TG. IWC does. 2.25 faster than FL Derby winner.

You're correct about IWC,he does have the best last race number.
I didn't notice the neg on the side of his number.........my own fault for not enlarging the screen.
You didn't understand my statement about AD.
When I said "like" referencing Thoro-graph,I meant it as a verb(in the past tense if you will) describing his previous races.........I was specifically speaking of his last number,and also his improvement from his race two back to his most recent.
I wasn't saying Thoro-graph was touting AD in the Derby.
Good luck on Saturday....

[Cpt.Bodgit]

well...the #2 post isn't going to help.

[Seattleallstar]

I dont like the choice of jockey either, I am hoping Christophe Soumillon is aggressive with him out of the gate to gain position from that post.

[taxicab]

Originally Posted by RHT2004

When has Always Dreaming been speed crazy? He sat comfortably in the Florida Derby.

Credit where credit is due.
You,Sir 2004........had Always Dreaming figured out perfectly.
Good read.
I......
On the other hand.....
Played Thunder Snow.
Two words...
Oh brother.

[ElPrado]

Hey, kudos for the jock for staying on 10 seconds😂.

[Hoblin]

Hats off to Soumillon and the the outrider for keeping Thunder Snow from running loose on the track. They averted what could have been a potential catastrophe not only for Thunder Snow, but for the entire rest of the field.

[ninetoone]

I had him covered on my tickets...it's an annual ritual that I go through...and one day it will pay off!