An eye opener........from the horses mouth you could say

[Honu]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Thanks Honu. That was an interesting article.

Its actually a Blog site where U.S Soldiers post their everyday happenings and thoughts about what is going on around them and the mission they are on . I found this site to be a very refreshing read compared to all the negative press you get in mainstream media. These guys are living the war and commenting about it from a real birds eye view , I for one am glad they are so at least we get a true picture of what is going on and not just what the press want us to know.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

check out this link...

www.liveleak.com/view?i=5030321bc2


us finest..kicking ass and taken names..

[GenuineRisk]

<<Anyway, for the real scoop, check out folks like Michael Yon, Michael Fumento, Ollie North, and yes, even "MSM" CNN correspondent Jane Arraf, to name but a few.>>

Ollie North... Ollie North... where have I heard that name before? Something about selling arms to Iraq and Iran, wasn't it? Hmm... can't remember. Apparently neither can the rest of the country.)

Listen, Honu, I hope this stuff is more true than false because I don't like thinking our soldiers are being thrown into a hopeless situation. But after the BS we were fed leading up to the war, I'm skeptical. The truth, as always, probably falls somewhere in the middle. Though I would sure like this version of events to be closer to it.

Anything in any of those postings about whether our soldiers are getting the armor they need?

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

then try living like this daily...
www.liveleak.com/view?i=7dbc22eed7&p=1


im sure they love to hear how 1/2 the people in the u s dont want them there......im sure they would rather be home too..

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

then try living like this daily...
www.liveleak.com/view?i=7dbc22eed7&p=1


im sure they love to hear how 1/2 the people in the u s dont want them there......im sure they would rather be home too..

Well duh that they'd rather be home themselves. But here's the thing, if I were in a situation like that, gads, if any of us actually were serving ourselves, I'd jolly well want to feel that I was there for a reason, too. I can't imagine how awful it must be/has been for soldiers in a war situation where they didn't feel they were there for a good reason-- believing in what they're doing must be essential to the mental and emotional health of a lot of them. And you'd better believe, when I sent out care package stuff through anysoldier.com (putting a plug in there for it again) I didn't offer any of my opinions of the situation in Iraq. They have nothing to do with it-- they're doing their job, to the best of their abilities.

I work for an environmental organization and believe me, there are times when I think, "What's the point? This effort is for nothing" and I get really depressed. Now, add to that depression being in a situation where I might have to kill people and am in constant danger of being maimed or killed myself and I imagine that depression turns into some pretty fierce mental anguish. I think I would choose to believe I'm needed there and I'm doing the right thing. And I don't blame a one of them for it.

And the reason behind not wanting them there is not because half of America thinks our nation is a big bad monster but because we're aware that these soldiers aren't nameless, faceless units that the government tries to hide from us (notice how you don't see any footage on television of the dead coming home?)- they're sons and daughters and friends and fathers and mothers and aunts and uncles. And we don't want them maimed, or dead, and their families left to mourn them. And I think our country has an obligation not to send them into danger when they aren't urgently needed. I think that's a betrayal of what they signed up for.

Because no one is complaining about going into Afghanistan (other than the slip-shod way it's been done, but that's not the soldiers' fault, it's the men in brass'). It's Iraq. Why do you think that is?

While I'm on the soapbox, folks, take some of your winnings (or spending money) and send a care package (or at least a letter) via anysoldier.com. For about $26.00 you can send a box of cookies and things. I know how little I make, and I can find that and I'm betting a lot of you make a lot more than I do, judging from the discretionary gambling money many of you seem to have every week. And if you're unwilling to, take a little time and write a letter, which is what most of them want more than anything anyway.

And I hope and pray in the end, it won't be for nothing. Please God, for sake of all those serving.

[GenuineRisk]

In a bizarre example of "Let's show how much better professional news writers can write than GR," Salon.com's cover story today is on a sense of purpose in military missions:

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2006/12/21/ptsd/

If you bother to read it, check out the editor's choice letters-- one of them made interesting points about military vs. police.

anysoldier.com. I think Dear Abby does a thing for the soldiers, too, by the way.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

While I'm on the soapbox, folks, take some of your winnings (or spending money) and send a care package (or at least a letter) via anysoldier.com. For about $26.00 you can send a box of cookies and things. I know how little I make, and I can find that and I'm betting a lot of you make a lot more than I do, judging from the discretionary gambling money many of you seem to have every week. And if you're unwilling to, take a little time and write a letter, which is what most of them want more than anything anyway.

And I hope and pray in the end, it won't be for nothing. Please God, for sake of all those serving.

if I could have a little room on your soapbox...MOVE OVER WOMAN!

the wounded warrior project is one that members of my family are involved in...in the adaptive sports programs
this group is dedicated to helping injured soldiers upon return to the US... it's another way to get involved and help
http://www.woundedwarriorproject.org...adquarters.htm

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by paisjpq

if I could have a little room on your soapbox...MOVE OVER WOMAN!

the wounded warrior project is one that members of my family are involved in...in the adaptive sports programs
this group is dedicated to helping injured soldiers upon return to the US... it's another way to get involved and help
http://www.woundedwarriorproject.org...adquarters.htm

Hee hee. Happy to share the soapbox; my throat was getting tired, anyway. Here's the megaphone; I'm going to make a Starbucks run. Want anything?

I read an article a few months ago about veterans with severe leg and hip injuries riding horses as part of their physical therapy because the horse's walking gait is quite similar to ours and it helps the veterans regain strength iin their walking muscles. And, of course, they were finding some mental benefits as well-- as those of us who love to ride could have told them. I think someone here (probably you, Bethani!) already mentioned this, but I thought it was worth mentioning again 'cause it's neat.

Great site, by the way, I made a donation.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Hee hee. Happy to share the soapbox; my throat was getting tired, anyway. Here's the megaphone; I'm going to make a Starbucks run. Want anything?

I read an article a few months ago about veterans with severe leg and hip injuries riding horses as part of their physical therapy because the horse's walking gait is quite similar to ours and it helps the veterans regain strength iin their walking muscles. And, of course, they were finding some mental benefits as well-- as those of us who love to ride could have told them. I think someone here (probably you, Bethani!) already mentioned this, but I thought it was worth mentioning again 'cause it's neat.

Great site, by the way, I made a donation.

no thanks I'll wait for the freebie from GPK...

I wasn't the one who posted about the therapeutic riding...but I used to volunteer at a place that did therapuetic riding for disabled kids...it was amazing; words fall short when trying to describe how much the horses helped those kids...physically, emotionally...

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Well duh that they'd rather be home themselves. But here's the thing, if I were in a situation like that, gads, if any of us actually were serving ourselves, I'd jolly well want to feel that I was there for a reason, too. I can't imagine how awful it must be/has been for soldiers in a war situation where they didn't feel they were there for a good reason-- believing in what they're doing must be essential to the mental and emotional health of a lot of them. And you'd better believe, when I sent out care package stuff through anysoldier.com (putting a plug in there for it again) I didn't offer any of my opinions of the situation in Iraq. They have nothing to do with it-- they're doing their job, to the best of their abilities.

I work for an environmental organization and believe me, there are times when I think, "What's the point? This effort is for nothing" and I get really depressed. Now, add to that depression being in a situation where I might have to kill people and am in constant danger of being maimed or killed myself and I imagine that depression turns into some pretty fierce mental anguish. I think I would choose to believe I'm needed there and I'm doing the right thing. And I don't blame a one of them for it.

And the reason behind not wanting them there is not because half of America thinks our nation is a big bad monster but because we're aware that these soldiers aren't nameless, faceless units that the government tries to hide from us (notice how you don't see any footage on television of the dead coming home?)- they're sons and daughters and friends and fathers and mothers and aunts and uncles. And we don't want them maimed, or dead, and their families left to mourn them. And I think our country has an obligation not to send them into danger when they aren't urgently needed. I think that's a betrayal of what they signed up for.

Because no one is complaining about going into Afghanistan (other than the slip-shod way it's been done, but that's not the soldiers' fault, it's the men in brass'). It's Iraq. Why do you think that is?

While I'm on the soapbox, folks, take some of your winnings (or spending money) and send a care package (or at least a letter) via anysoldier.com. For about $26.00 you can send a box of cookies and things. I know how little I make, and I can find that and I'm betting a lot of you make a lot more than I do, judging from the discretionary gambling money many of you seem to have every week. And if you're unwilling to, take a little time and write a letter, which is what most of them want more than anything anyway.

And I hope and pray in the end, it won't be for nothing. Please God, for sake of all those serving.

Genuine Risk,
I also pray for the well being of those that serve in the military.
There is a growing movement of resistance.
Here is their site:
http://www.appealforredress.org/

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

heres are boys letting off some steam

www.liveleak.com/view?i=8b8fe10151&p=1

www.liveleak.com/view?i=5c0d2a40e6&p=1

i think gpk t3b is rideing on this truck..lol

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

then try living like this daily...
www.liveleak.com/view?i=7dbc22eed7&p=1


im sure they love to hear how 1/2 the people in the u s dont want them there......im sure they would rather be home too..

reminds me of Apocolypse Now... without the vegetation.