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freddymo · #1 03-30-2017, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

FTFY

Yep what was On Leave's winning bsf at Belmont when she galloped at Belmont 75ish. It's a turf race how many break their mdn with 80+ in their 2nd start? It was a dawdling first half the fig matters but not nearly as much as if it was a dirt race and you know this

Kasept · #2 03-30-2017, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

Yep what was On Leave's winning bsf at Belmont when she galloped at Belmont 75ish. It's a turf race how many break their mdn with 80+ in their 2nd start? It was a dawdling first half the fig matters but not nearly as much as if it was a dirt race and you know this

She may develop as she goes, but running for a diploma at Tampa for $20k is not a ringing endorsement of her talent level.

freddymo · #3 03-30-2017, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

She may develop as she goes, but running for a diploma at Tampa for $20k is not a ringing endorsement of her talent level.

Would agree most of the time NOT here. She was training at Payson's and the turf course at GP is dubious right? I dont know how she was working but she was working faster then typical for shug, again I dont know what that means other then he doesnt typical put 4 48 turf works into a mdn, In this specific case were she started is not relevant. If purse was 20(which is embarrassing) or 60 I dont think that has anything to do with her future. This is a good filly she will win a stakes if healthy

RolloTomasi · #4 03-30-2017, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

This is a good filly she will win a stakes if healthy

Gonna wait for her to run in a race with a 1/2 mile fraction quicker than :50+ and perhaps at least a modicum of pace pressure.

Not sure where you a getting this On Leave parallel, that filly has a totally different running style -- not to mention was totally exposed for class in the Queen Elizabeth at Keeneland.

freddymo · #5 03-30-2017, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Gonna wait for her to run in a race with a 1/2 mile fraction quicker than :50+ and perhaps at least a modicum of pace pressure.

Not sure where you a getting this On Leave parallel, that filly has a totally different running style -- not to mention was totally exposed for class in the Queen Elizabeth at Keeneland.

Exposed is a bit harsh right? It was a good group of 3 year old turfers IMO last year and she was very impressive while loose on lead in Sands point, I wasnt crazy about the ride Ortiz gave her in QE but clearly she wasnt as good as the very tough Time in Motion.

RolloTomasi · #6 03-30-2017, 02:04 PM

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Exposed is a bit harsh right? It was a good group of 3 year old turfers IMO last year and she was very impressive while loose on lead in Sands point, I wasnt crazy about the ride Ortiz gave her in QE but clearly she wasnt as good as the very tough Time in Motion.

Or the other two that finished 6 lengths in front of her. Had no response when the real running started. Clearly hit a ceiling with a perfectly managed and progressive campaign by McGaughey. It was fun while it lasted.

Maybe we can hope she's matured from 3 to 4, but I won't hold out much hope beyond a couple of Grade 3s in NY and/or KY.

freddymo · #7 03-30-2017, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Or the other two that finished 6 lengths in front of her. Had no response when the real running started. Clearly hit a ceiling with a perfectly managed and progressive campaign by McGaughey. It was fun while it lasted.

Maybe we can hope she's matured from 3 to 4, but I won't hold out much hope beyond a couple of Grade 3s in NY and/or KY.

She is just getting back to working after a break, I think she has had just 1 4f work too date so I wouldnt expect her back till the Beaugay in mid May

RHT2004 · #8 03-30-2017, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Gonna wait for her to run in a race with a 1/2 mile fraction quicker than :50+ and perhaps at least a modicum of pace pressure.

Not sure where you a getting this On Leave parallel, that filly has a totally different running style -- not to mention was totally exposed for class in the Queen Elizabeth at Keeneland.

I think shes a future stakes winner, but who knows. The very next race a bomb wired so the turf was playing to speed.