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Old 12-20-2006, 08:28 PM
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Lets not forget the time between races for Discreet Cat. Geez, imagine how much better Skip Away and Cigar would have been if they were treated like a glass horse too.

I dont blame anybody for hyping up this horse though, we are in desperate need of a superstar in this sport. This decade has provided very few.

The 90's spoiled us with real horses that ran in races with real competition.
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Old 12-21-2006, 06:48 AM
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Enough of this silly talk about DC's tough trips. Trips don't matter when you face horses that can't possibly beat you under any circumstances.

I think now, Bernardini is probably underrated. Guess what? Great horses lose races sometimes. Very few retire undefeated. This horse most likely would have gone on to greatness if given the chance, including beating Discreet Cat at anything 1 1/8 miles and beyond. Unfortunately, as with all talented horses in this game, we'll never know how great he could have been.

Losing the BC Classic by about a length as a 3yo to a very good horse is pretty impressive if you think about it.
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Old 12-21-2006, 02:45 PM
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Losing the BC Classic by about a length as a 3yo to a very good horse is pretty impressive if you think about it.
While I don't agree that Bernardini was underrated....his repute was earned with one cup-cake trip after another.

I do however agree with you that he ran very well in the Breeders Cup Classic, far better than people seem to want to give him credit for running. It was also his first time facing real in-race adversity against top company...if anything, I was impressed with I saw from him.

He came up empty in the last 1/8th---but was understandably moved too soon, while finding himself further than he typically is, behind that very solid early pace.

I also agree that Bernardini could have developed further. In fact, a very rational case could be made that Bernardini's best race might have been his BC Classic loss. I also believe Invasor's best race was his Classic win...even though his winning performance in the Whitney is MASSIVELY underrated.
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Old 12-21-2006, 06:57 PM
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While I don't agree that Bernardini was underrated...
I never said he was underrated before the Classic. I'm saying he is now, as he is being brushed away after a pretty damn good race. Of course, we'll never really know...
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Old 12-21-2006, 07:21 PM
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I never said he was underrated before the Classic. I'm saying he is now, as he is being brushed away after a pretty damn good race. Of course, we'll never really know...
I think it speaks volumes that they retired bernardini as a three year old, and even more so they knew they would going into the breeders cup.

it's really not very often that you see them retire a healthy 3yo, especially one that is a supposed superstar.

say what you will about godolphin and darley, but they at least usually keep their top horses running through their four and sometimes five year old seasons.

what this says to me is that they knew he wasnt as good as the hype would suggest, and therefore he will be worth alot more at stud if his reputation does not become tarnished.

as i was telling salami the other day, i have to think way back to come up with a horse like bernardini. one that is a very very good horse, but is also very much overhyped.
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