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Old 01-31-2017, 10:28 PM
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Just my opinion of course. Does CC's Classic last year beat Roses in May in '04? I have my doubts. Pleasantly Perfect beat MDO twice on the square, which is good enough for me, though PP wasn't his best when Ghostzapper beat him. Saint Liam's Woodward vs Ghostzapper is better than anything CC has run, and he also won a BC Classic. If they weren't better, they are most certainly in the discussion.

To throw another horse in there from that timeframe...I'm not positive CC is better than Congaree either.
If you're going to bring up Pleasantly Perfect as a horse that beat Medaglia d'Oro, I think we'd be remiss to not bring up Candy Ride. He destroyed MDO while setting a track record (sub 2:00) and earning the highest Beyer figure of 2003 (123). Prior to that race, he won a grade two on the grass while beating a multiple grade one winner in Special Ring. I think he merits a mention on this topic.
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Old 02-01-2017, 08:23 AM
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If you're going to bring up Pleasantly Perfect as a horse that beat Medaglia d'Oro, I think we'd be remiss to not bring up Candy Ride. He destroyed MDO while setting a track record (sub 2:00) and earning the highest Beyer figure of 2003 (123). Prior to that race, he won a grade two on the grass while beating a multiple grade one winner in Special Ring. I think he merits a mention on this topic.
Candy Ride was awesome. Too bad he wasn't able to run more races.
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Old 02-01-2017, 11:13 AM
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Formal Gold in 1997:
Aug 2 - 2nd by a nose in the Whitney, 9f in 1:48 1/5 - 126
Aug 23 - 1st by 5 lengths in the Iselin, 8.5f in 1:40 1/5 NTR - 124
Sep 20 - 1st by 5 lengths in the Woodward, 9f in 1:47 2/5 - 125

Suspect at 10f (4-0-0-1)

Best Pal in 1992:
Jan 18 - 1st by 3.5 lengths in the San Fernando, 9f in 1:48 1/5 - 121
Feb 9 - 1st by 1.25 lengths in the Strub, 10f in 1:59 4/5 - 119
Mar 7 - 1st by 5 lengths in the Big Cap, 10f in 1:59 - 123
Apr 11 - 1st by 1.5 lengths in the Oaklawn, 9f in 1:48 - 121

Suspect outside CA (though Oaklawn race and Derby placing say otherwise)

Easy Goer in 1989:
Jun10 - 1st by 8 lengths in Belmont Stakes, 12f in 2:26 - 122
Aug 5 - 1st by 4.5 lengths in Whitney, 9f in 1:47 2/5 - 119
Aug 19 - 1st by 3 lengths in Travers, 10f in 2:00 4/5 - 121
Sep 16 - 1st by 2 lengths in Woodward, 10f in 2:01 - 115 * track muddy
Oct 7 - 1st by 4 lengths in JC Gold Cup, 12f in 2:29 1/5 - 120
Nov 4 - 2nd by a neck in BC Classic, 10f in 2:00 1/5 - 124

Suspect in the mud (lowest BSF for every campaign registered on off tracks)
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Old 02-01-2017, 11:23 AM
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The early 4yo Best Pal before suffering a major injury was a different horse than post injury, he 3 races or so in early 1992 were crushing, and if memory is correct he beat a few nice horses.
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Old 02-01-2017, 11:57 AM
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The early 4yo Best Pal before suffering a major injury was a different horse than post injury, he 3 races or so in early 1992 were crushing, and if memory is correct he beat a few nice horses.
Major stakes winners Dinard and Olympio didn't make it beyond the Strub Series. Reign Road later took down the Del Mar BC and Goodwood before a fast closing 4th to AP Indy in the BC Classic. Another Review went on a mid season tear and took the San Bernadino, Mervyn LeRoy, Californian, and San Diego. Twilight Agenda won the Oak Tree Mile, Sea Cadet had just won the Donn and GP Handicaps and later won the Meadowlands Cup. Defensive Play later won the Excelsior. Argentine HOY Algenib later won the Golden Gate Handicap, fellow Argentinian Ibero won the NYRA Mile and the following year won the Met Mile. Past their prime In Excess and Fly So Free were also defeated.
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Old 02-01-2017, 12:03 PM
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So DRF has an article about the timing of this race...Trakus of course says there is nothing to see here, move along.

Reached on Tuesday, Michael Ciacciarelli, the chief operating officer of Trakus, said that the company had heard “chatter” about the timing of the Pegasus and had formed a team “that is kind of looking into it.” However, he also said that an initial review of the race had not turned up any errors in the timing system. Ciacciarelli did not immediately return a phone call on Wednesday morning seeking comment on any new developments in the review.
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Major stakes winners Dinard and Olympio didn't make it beyond the Strub Series. Reign Road later took down the Del Mar BC and Goodwood before a fast closing 4th to AP Indy in the BC Classic. Another Review went on a mid season tear and took the San Bernadino, Mervyn LeRoy, Californian, and San Diego. Twilight Agenda won the Oak Tree Mile, Sea Cadet had just won the Donn and GP Handicaps and later won the Meadowlands Cup. Defensive Play later won the Excelsior. Argentine HOY Algenib later won the Golden Gate Handicap, fellow Argentinian Ibero won the NYRA Mile and the following year won the Met Mile. Past their prime In Excess and Fly So Free were also defeated.
Aw loved Sea Cadet. That tail was adorable. RIP.
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