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Old 12-20-2006, 03:45 PM
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I've been a huge Discreet Cat fan since the maiden win at Saratoga but the way so many people jumped from Bernardini to him cause they couldn't respect Invasor was pretty annoying to me.

If you think that was anything remotely close to the real Invasor that ran in Dubai then you think a lot more highly of Testimony and Flamme De Passion then I do.
Before my debut here---I went way out of my way, writing serveral tedious and boring posts about how Bernardini had won all of his races with one cupcake trip after another---and, that he was certain to face real adversity, from a trip standpoint, in the Classic for the first time. Which I believe he did.

I haven't noticed "Bernardini fans jumping to DC" ---if anything, the people who crowned Bernardini all seem to have shifted to Invasor...and, to a lesser extent, Barbaro. Which is why Invasor is a shoe-in for Horse of the Year.

I agree that Invasor wasn't at his best in Dubai--there were three genuine South American superstars in that race...the mighty Simpatico Bribon, who was undefeated in 8 career starts on dirt, and brought massive repute into the UAE Derby. Gold For Sale, who was an undefeated Group 1 winner on turf, and a very impressive Group Stakes winner in his only dirt start. And, of course, Invasor...the undefeated Triple Crown winner and Horse of the Year of lowly Urugauy.

The poor showing by all three of them in the raise was quite eye-catching...and makes you think a little...however, anyone with even modest race watching skills, could see that Discreet Cat ran a gigantic race that day.
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Old 12-20-2006, 03:57 PM
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I haven't noticed "Bernardini fans jumping to DC" ---if anything, the people who crowned Bernardini all seem to have shifted to Invasor...and, to a lesser extent, Barbaro. Which is why Invasor is a shoe-in for Horse of the Year.
A lot of the people that jumped from the Bernimafia over to Discreet Cat right after the BC have gone into hiding since. The majority of the bandwagon exchanging was before you came on here and those people have kept quiet since.

To the people mentioning Premium Tap I think he's come full circle. He's gone from one of the most underrated horses out there to one who is actually slightly overrated at this point. It is like those athletes that people start calling underrated until everyone is calling them the most underrated in the sport at which point it is pretty much impossible for them to still qualify as underrated.

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Old 12-20-2006, 03:59 PM
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there has been a let down after the bcc regarding all the bernie-mania. he was proven to be very good, as most suspected--he was also proven not to be the super horse some thought him.
i think only a few overrated him with talk of records on demand, winning by daylight in the classic, etc.
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Old 12-20-2006, 04:00 PM
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[quote=SniperSB23][quote=The Indomitable DrugS]I haven't noticed "Bernardini fans jumping to DC" ---if anything, the people who crowned Bernardini all seem to have shifted to Invasor...and, to a lesser extent, Barbaro. Which is why Invasor is a shoe-in for Horse of the Year.
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A lot of the people that jumped from the Bernimafia over to Discreet Cat right after the BC have gone into hiding since. The majority of the bandwagon exchanging was before you came on here and those people have kept quiet since.

To the people mentioning Premium Tap I think he's come full circle. He's gone from one of the most underrated horses out there to one who is actually slightly overrated at this point. It is like those athletes that people start calling underrated until everyone is calling them the most underrated in the sport at which point it is pretty much impossible for them to still qualify as underrated.
Sniper, IMO, he was underrated at least until the BCC (that means the majority of 2006.) I don't know about you, but I tossed him in the classic...
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Old 12-20-2006, 04:05 PM
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Sniper, IMO, he was underrated at least until the BCC (that means the majority of 2006.) I don't know about you, but I tossed him in the classic...
Yeah, he was definitely underrated until then but after running 3rd there and then toying with the Clark field I feel like people think somehow the Clark means he is the best returning horse next year. I think he is among the best but that distinction goes to Invasor with Premium Tap and Discreet Cat battling it out for the second spot. And yes, I played the superfecta with Invasor and Bernardini in the top two spots and four horses (including Giacomo) in the bottom two spots and foolishly left Premium Tap out since I convinced myself he'd get too much dirt kicked in his face to be effective. Not my best moment.
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Old 12-20-2006, 04:08 PM
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Yeah, he was definitely underrated until then but after running 3rd there and then toying with the Clark field I feel like people think somehow the Clark means he is the best returning horse next year. I think he is among the best but that distinction goes to Invasor with Premium Tap and Discreet Cat battling it out for the second spot. And yes, I played the superfecta with Invasor and Bernardini in the top two spots and four horses (including Giacomo) in the bottom two spots and foolishly left Premium Tap out since I convinced myself he'd get too much dirt kicked in his face to be effective. Not my best moment.
You sound like me... I boxed Invasor, Dini, Giacomo and Perfect Drift. I was convinced of the same thing. Oh well...
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Old 12-21-2006, 10:00 AM
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Yeah, he was definitely underrated until then but after running 3rd there and then toying with the Clark field I feel like people think somehow the Clark means he is the best returning horse next year. I think he is among the best but that distinction goes to Invasor with Premium Tap and Discreet Cat battling it out for the second spot. And yes, I played the superfecta with Invasor and Bernardini in the top two spots and four horses (including Giacomo) in the bottom two spots and foolishly left Premium Tap out since I convinced myself he'd get too much dirt kicked in his face to be effective. Not my best moment.
That's because you didn't listen to me on Premium Tap (but I can't talk for putting only Bernie on top w/ Invasor & PT )
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