A funny thing happened on the way to the coronation...

[CheekyBird]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

In 2000, there were some overseas ballots of servicemen that hadn't been counted. Gore and Lieberman tried to block those ballots from being counted. There are some politicians on both sides of the aisle that will try to win at any cost. But in general I think the vast majority of citizens on both sides think that anyone who is a citizen should be able to vote, and I also think that the vast majority of citizens on both of the aisle think that you should be required to show a valid ID when you vote.

I am not well-versed in the particulars of the Bush v. Gore fiasco, so I will have to do some research regarding the counting of the overseas ballots. I'll, as it were, punt on this one.[/quote]

As I said before, California is a joke. No ID is required. You walk in to the polling place and you tell them your name. Then they ask you for your address, you give it to them, they find it on their list, you sign your name, they cross your name off and give you your ballot. But as I said before, every person's address is posted outside the polling place. So if a person wanted to they could find a name that has not voted yet (the list is updated every 2 hours) and then walk in and claim to be that person. There would be practically no way to get caught. How insane is that? If anyone bothered checking the signatures after the fact, they would see that the signature doesn't match, but nobody at the polling place checks your signature with the signature database. I don't think they even have access to the signature database at the polling place. I don't know if anyone goes over the signatures after the election is over. If they did, it would be too late at that point any way. Maybe they could throw that ballot out. But the person who tried to vote under the fake name could not be caught. There would be no way of knowing who the person was who tried to vote under the phony name.

I am inclined to support showing proof of citizenship for voting, however, it is my understanding that in some states, permanent residents can vote in local or state elections. Will have to research this one, but I can't imagine why there would be push back to showing proof, unless you're 100 years old with no birth certificate or passport.

I do not, however, object to registering legal aliens. They need to be deployed once they attain citizenship so that they can vote in the presidential election.

Edited to add that I can't think of how one person or a group of people can appreciably change the outcome of the presidential elections in the U.S. How many polling places in each state would they have to infiltrate? How many millions of ballots would they have to "stuff?" It's just not feasible.

The other thing that is ridiculous is that there are probably over 1 million illegal aliens who vote. How do they get away with it? It is simple. Anyone can register to vote. They are not allowed to ask you for proof of citizenship. How ridiculous is that? If you walk in to register to vote and you can hardly speak English, shouldn't they ask you to see proof of citizenship? Of course they should. But they are not allowed to. It is illegal for them to ask you for proof of citizenship. That is insane. So how many illegal aliens actually vote? Here are the estimates: http://watchdog.org/260524/illegal-i...2016-election/

That 1 million illegal/undocumented people vote is utter nonsense. It completely defies logic. Why expose yourself to possible deportation by providing personal information or committing a felony?? I can't imagine any sane person risking, in many cases, life and limb to come to America just to toss it all away by illegally voting Particularly when you consider the current crop of candidates!!