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Old 10-31-2016, 02:19 PM
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I had Gloryzapper or Paulasilverlining getting the early lead, but I agree it was tough. Expecting it to be modest either way.
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Old 11-03-2016, 02:57 AM
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I think Gloryzapper is lone speed. Because of that I'm using her in exotics.

Paola Queen might go to the front only because she drew the rail. Carina Mia has done it in the past. But its not their strength.
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Old 11-03-2016, 09:21 AM
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I think Gloryzapper is lone speed. Because of that I'm using her in exotics.

Paola Queen might go to the front only because she drew the rail. Carina Mia has done it in the past. But its not their strength.
I don't know about this, Pete. I think Haveyougoneaway may be a tick faster. As is Paulassilverlining, but not by as much.
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Old 11-03-2016, 12:34 PM
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I don't know about this, Pete. I think Haveyougoneaway may be a tick faster. As is Paulassilverlining, but not by as much.
My concern is... So Gloryzapper has been on the lead/pressed in each race. But if you look at her fractions, they're fast, but not sizzling.

Like if someone presses her and she's forced to go 22.2, 44 and change, etc.
A) can she go that fast?
B) can she maintain it for 7f (probably not)?

But I still have trouble seeing who really wants to go to the front with her. A lot of horses will press/stalk her, but I really think she'll be in the lead going into the stretch. She might drop anchor there, but I still think she's in front early on
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Old 11-03-2016, 12:47 PM
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My concern is... So Gloryzapper has been on the lead/pressed in each race. But if you look at her fractions, they're fast, but not sizzling.

Like if someone presses her and she's forced to go 22.2, 44 and change, etc.
A) can she go that fast?
B) can she maintain it for 7f (probably not)?

But I still have trouble seeing who really wants to go to the front with her. A lot of horses will press/stalk her, but I really think she'll be in the lead going into the stretch. She might drop anchor there, but I still think she's in front early on
My first thoughts on this race were gloryzapper can take these a long way in the front and if nobody else presses can wire the field.
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Old 11-03-2016, 01:22 PM
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There are about 5 solid speed factors in here and I don't think any are markedly quicker than the other - for me, Gloryzapper is 4th or 5th quickest out of the bunch. I think Wonder Gal and Haveyougoneaway are likely the two quickest, followed by the rest, but again I don't think there is a lengths difference between them.

Point being I don't think anyone is going to get a clear lead, though Wonder Gal likely needs it to have any shot.

I'm pretty much sold on the 2, but will add 6 and 10 in the case of a stampede on the front
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