A funny thing happened on the way to the coronation...

[CheekyBird]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Everybody knows that Republicans try to suppress votes from legitimate, registered voters. How anybody could believe such BS is unbelievable. But that is the only argument that dems can make to stop legitimate voter ID laws. There is no possible legitimate argument against wanting people to have to show ID. It is the only way that you can assure at least some integrity in elections. Since there is no legitimate argument against making people show ID, the dems claim that making people show ID will disenfranchise people. It is one of the most absurd things I have ever heard. But even more shocking is that some gullible people actually believe it.

In this country you need to show ID for practically everything. To argue that you shouldn't have to show ID to vote is beyond ludicrous. In California, there is a list of voters posted on the wall outside of every precinct. It gives every voter's name and address for that precinct. So you can look at the list and choose a name and walk into the polling place and vote using that name. If you wanted to, you could do this at 30 different polling places. You can literally vote as many times as you want and there is virtually no way to get caught. How many people do this? I have no idea, but to say that nobody is doing it is absurd. In any competition, people will try to cheat. Even when there are safeguards in place, there are some people that will still cheat. So when there are no safeguards in place, there will obviously be plenty of cheating.

To say that we should not take steps to ensure the integrity of elections is crazy. The dem leaders know that there is plenty of cheating. The Project Veritas sting operation proved that people high up in the democratic party are in on the cheating. The only reason that dems don't want voter ID laws put in place is because they know it will make it harder for them to cheat.

It is completely reasonable to require that voters present valid identification that permits them to vote. It is only after being challenged in court that several states that engaged in unreasonable ID requirement practices NOW have reasonable requirements.

Voter suppression ID practices include disallowing student IDs, requiring 80 year-olds who don't drive but have voted since blacks were permitted to vote produce birth certificates or travel miles to obtain "valid" voter identification.

Voter ID Laws notwithstanding, it is completely dishonest to suggest that there haven't been efforts to make voting (particularly for minorities and poor people who would vote democratic) if not difficult, frustrating.

Here's a compilation of quotes and efforts towards that end:

Governor Chris Christie: Same-Day Voter Registration Is a “Trick” and GOP Needs to Win Gubernatorial Races So They Control “Voting Mechanisms”


***(Let me hasten to add that I am conflicted about same day registration. There should be a voter registration period and deadlines that must be adhered to, but it is not a "trick" and why should the GOP "control" voting mechanisms??)***


Georgia Senator Fran Miller Complains About Polling Place Being Too Convenient for Black Voters: “[T]his location is dominated by African-American shoppers and it is near several large African-American mega churches such as New Birth Missionary Baptist… Is it possible church buses will be used to transport people directly to the mall since the poll will open when the mall opens?



In 2012, Republican officials in Ohio were limiting early voting hours in Democratic-majority counties, while expanding them on nights and weekends in Republican counties. In response to public outcry, Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted mandated the same early voting hours in all 88 Ohio counties. He kept early voting hours from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. on weekdays from October 2 to 19 and broadened hours from 8 a.m. to 7 p.m. from October 22 to November 2. But he refused to expand voting hours beyond 7 p.m. during the week, on weekends or three days prior to the election — which is when voting is most convenient for many working-class Ohioans. Here’s what the Franklin Party (Columbus) Ohio GOP chair, Doug Preis said about limiting early voting. “I guess I really actually feel we shouldn’t contort the voting process to accommodate the urban — read African-American — voter-turnout machine.” (And yes, he actually said “read African-American,” that wasn’t inserted.)


In an interview last year with The Daily Show, Don Yelton, a GOP precinct chair in Buncombe County, North Carolina, defended the state’s new voter ID law, saying so many offensive things, he was asked to resign the day after it aired. Yelton admits at the start of the segment that the number of Buncombe County residents who commit voter fraud is one or two out of 60,000 a year. The interview correspondent, Aasif Mandvi, replies that those numbers show “there’s enough voter fraud to sway zero elections,” and[b] then Yelton replies, [/B]“Mmmm…that’s not the point.” He goes on to say that “if it hurts a bunch of lazy blacks that want the government to give them everything, so be it.” and then adds, “The law is going to kick the Democrats in the butt.”


More: http://billmoyers.com/2014/10/24/voter-discrimination/