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Old 10-29-2016, 07:23 PM
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95 beyer makes her competitive with Songbird.
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Old 10-29-2016, 08:10 PM
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95 beyer makes her competitive with Songbird.

Just more nebulous nonsense from Joe Rockhead 10
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Old 10-31-2016, 04:27 PM
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Just more nebulous nonsense from Joe Rockhead 10
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Old 10-29-2016, 09:52 PM
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95 beyer makes her competitive with Songbird.
Lmao. Ya songbird and her 9 straight graded wins including 7 graded 1s is shaking worrying about this horse. Everything isn't about beyer speed figures.
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Old 10-29-2016, 09:59 PM
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Lmao. Ya songbird and her 9 straight graded wins including 7 graded 1s is shaking worrying about this horse. Everything isn't about beyer speed figures.
Yeah, it's also about Baffert.
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Old 10-30-2016, 09:18 AM
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Lmao. Ya songbird and her 9 straight graded wins including 7 graded 1s is shaking worrying about this horse. Everything isn't about beyer speed figures.
I said makes her competitive. Songbird has never cracked a 100 and is grossly overrated, while being accomplished because of her lack of competition. When she is no better then 5th on Friday all this madness can stop.
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Old 10-30-2016, 10:22 PM
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I was corrected via PM. Songbird has run a 100 beyer once.
Super filly for sure.
Remember Close Hatches? She would have buried Songbird.
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Old 10-31-2016, 08:05 PM
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Remember Close Hatches? She would have buried Songbird.
This is a fact.
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Old 10-31-2016, 08:11 PM
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This is a fact.
Her full runs Friday at Aqu. Loved her.
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Old 10-31-2016, 08:31 PM
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I suppose Riboletta would of buried Zenyatta with all the Close Hatches vs Songbird talk
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Old 10-31-2016, 04:26 PM
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I said makes her competitive. Songbird has never cracked a 100 and is grossly overrated, while being accomplished because of her lack of competition. When she is no better then 5th on Friday all this madness can stop.
Has Songbird ever had to finish a race? I mostly see the jockey riding side saddle waving at the crowd in the finish line photos. She wins easy and still goes faster than Vale Dori.
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Old 10-31-2016, 04:36 PM
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Has Songbird ever had to finish a race? I mostly see the jockey riding side saddle waving at the crowd in the finish line photos. She wins easy and still goes faster than Vale Dori.
So she's going to run faster this Friday then she has been?
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Old 10-31-2016, 04:48 PM
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It's possible. I'm betting against it, but it's not impossible. What was Beholder's top # before she blew up in the Pacific Classic last year? How about AP's top number before the BCC last year?
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Old 12-04-2016, 09:25 PM
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When she is no better then 5th on Friday all this madness can stop.
missed this....good call
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Old 12-04-2016, 09:42 PM
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missed this....good call
Seriously bro? She was odds on and lost. You can make a living tossing horses over bet like her in exchange wagering. I gave her respect post race, while realizing she set a slow pace and still couldn't win. She's good, that's it. Nothing wrong w/ being good.
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Old 12-04-2016, 10:26 PM
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Seriously bro? She was odds on and lost. You can make a living tossing horses over bet like her in exchange wagering. I gave her respect post race, while realizing she set a slow pace and still couldn't win. She's good, that's it. Nothing wrong w/ being good.
Lost ? What race were you watching ?see avatar
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Old 12-05-2016, 07:40 AM
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Seriously bro? She was odds on and lost. You can make a living tossing horses over bet like her in exchange wagering. I gave her respect post race, while realizing she set a slow pace and still couldn't win. She's good, that's it. Nothing wrong w/ being good.
The fact you believe your opinion validated by a horse losing a head bob, to Beholder no less, is no shock to anyone.
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Old 12-05-2016, 01:37 PM
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The fact you believe your opinion validated by a horse losing a head bob, to Beholder no less, is no shock to anyone.
Look Stellar Wind didnt fire had trouble or whatever and Songbird is suppose to draw off given the pace she didnt. Beholder ran a much better race not sure how many additional feet Beholder ran but it was at least 3 lengths. Songbird ran well but given the race dynamics I dont believe she ran to her rep
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