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Old 12-19-2006, 02:37 PM
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I bet you do know the race. I was enraged. I started swearing as they went into the first turn, and didn't stop swearing until after they hit the wire. The little criminal mother****er should be a jail cell somewhere wearing a child sized orange jumpsuit and bending over for the soap.
So fired up...calm down
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Old 12-19-2006, 02:40 PM
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So fired up...calm down
If I showed you this replay, you would laugh your ass off. You wouldn't believe it if you saw it. NOONE could be that bad by accident. A ten pound bug making his first ride with no whip coulda given a better effort. Horse sure was ready to run though!!! The guy had to wrestle the horse the whole way and steer into trouble twice and THEN go wide when he could have had a hole to get him beat. Little dwarf bastard had to be exhausted when he came back.
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Old 12-19-2006, 02:57 PM
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If I showed you this replay, you would laugh your ass off. You wouldn't believe it if you saw it. NOONE could be that bad by accident. A ten pound bug making his first ride with no whip coulda given a better effort. Horse sure was ready to run though!!! The guy had to wrestle the horse the whole way and steer into trouble twice and THEN go wide when he could have had a hole to get him beat. Little dwarf bastard had to be exhausted when he came back.
One last thing about that race. A couple of guys(fans/bettors) came up to me after the race and thanked me for getting after the jockey. Said that they were regulars and nothing pissed them off more than when after one of those rides the trainer and jock held hands and joked like they were buddies. I told the stewards this story but they still fined me. Honestly I was not really that bad, just told him that was the worst f'ing ride I have ever gotten. Stews said I cant curse in public after a race. I asked them if they ever heard the public after they make a bad DQ? They still weren't impressed.
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Old 12-19-2006, 03:01 PM
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One last thing about that race. A couple of guys(fans/bettors) came up to me after the race and thanked me for getting after the jockey. Said that they were regulars and nothing pissed them off more than when after one of those rides the trainer and jock held hands and joked like they were buddies. I told the stewards this story but they still fined me. Honestly I was not really that bad, just told him that was the worst f'ing ride I have ever gotten. Stews said I cant curse in public after a race. I asked them if they ever heard the public after they make a bad DQ? They still weren't impressed.
Thats ok some disgruntled and enraged fan "may" have called the stewards the next day and asked them what they intended to do about it.
The fan "may" have even have said "Am I talking to Stevie WOnder or Ray Charles" when they said they saw nothing to merit action.
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Old 12-14-2014, 12:41 PM
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Other shoe finally drops: http://www.drf.com/news/man-pleads-g...thletes-jockey

Man pleads guilty to bribing college athletes, jockey
By Matt Hegarty

A Detroit man accused of bribing college athletes and a jockey who rode briefly in the United States pleaded guilty to three counts, including conspiracy to fix races, in a case that has touched on the careers of several riders.

Ghazi Manni, 57, admitted in U.S. District Court in Detroit on Tuesday that he paid bribes to players at the University of Toledo to shave points in basketball and football games from 2004-06. He also admitted to paying bribes to a jockey, Ricardo Valdes, to hold horses in four races at Tampa Bay Downs and Delaware Park during those same years. Valdes left the United States in 2006, several years before the indictment was released, and his whereabouts are unknown, according to officials.

Although the indictment against Manni and others associated with the scheme was not unsealed until 2009, an investigation into some of the allegations in the indictment had been launched years earlier by the Thoroughbred Racing Protective Bureau, a private investigative agency owned by tracks. As a result of the TRPB probe, Tampa Bay Downs banned seven jockeys, including Valdes, in late 2006, under the suspicion that the jockeys had held horses in races at Great Lakes Downs in Michigan.

Other than Valdes, none of the jockeys was ever charged by authorities, though some tracks, including Arlington Park, temporarily barred several of the jockeys as a result of the Tampa Bay Downs bans. Over the years, most of the affected riders either left racing or received licenses to ride in other jurisdictions, although one jurisdiction, Kentucky, has declined to approve a racing application from Terry Houghton, one of the jockeys banned at Tampa Bay Downs, even though he has filed license applications.

Marc Guilfoil, the deputy director of the Kentucky Horse Racing Commission, said Thursday that the KHRC was scheduled to hold a licensing review hearing for Houghton in January. However, with the case involving Manni now closed, Houghton’s license likely will be reconsidered for approval this year, following discussions with the U.S. attorney’s office that brought the case, Guilfoil said.

In the case of Manni, seven former college players have pleaded guilty, along with Manni’s partner, Mitchell Karam. None has been sentenced.
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Old 12-14-2014, 02:21 PM
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Holy cow. Great pull on a 8yo thread. What, you own this joint or something?
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Old 12-14-2014, 02:23 PM
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Hey SB, come to the Tampa vacay reunion in Feb. ATRAB live from BigsMC finish line box.
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Old 12-19-2006, 03:04 PM
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One last thing about that race. A couple of guys(fans/bettors) came up to me after the race and thanked me for getting after the jockey. Said that they were regulars and nothing pissed them off more than when after one of those rides the trainer and jock held hands and joked like they were buddies. I told the stewards this story but they still fined me. Honestly I was not really that bad, just told him that was the worst f'ing ride I have ever gotten. Stews said I cant curse in public after a race. I asked them if they ever heard the public after they make a bad DQ? They still weren't impressed.
So in the Stewards' eyes, you have to be Mother Theresa? I swear every five minutes when I am at the track, I am going to try and swear in front of a steward next time I am at Arlington, see if I get fined

More so, I have seen Calabrese and Catalano come to blows after a race and they didn't get fined. Not only were they swearing, programs/hats/pens/shirts were flying around like a tornado.

F'n Stewards, they need to lock 10 people in a room for a whole year and let them make all the decisions, instead of having stewards per track, so we can have some consistency
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