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Old 12-19-2006, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by oracle80
Was waiting for this, tee hee.
SMART people don't just recite stats, smart people examine the circumstances!!
Umm, Euro, you wanna tell me what Hollywood's handle crashed and burned so badly last year at the corresponding meet?
You wanna tell me why Hollywood's field size got clobbered last year?
Or don't you pay attention to "minor details" like that?
Well smart people go back further than one year to examine circumstances. The increase in field size reversed a 7 year trend (not an 1 year trend). For 7 years in a row, field size has been on a decline until this fall meet at Hollywood. So I am not looking at 1 year period. I tend to believe the workmans compensation problems in Cali have contributed greatly to the decline in starters year over year. And I believe they have that figured out. The decline in starters last year was because of the turf problems I believe.
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Old 12-19-2006, 10:30 AM
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So Oracle, what is your reasoning as to why there has been a 7 year decline in starters at Hollywood?
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Old 12-19-2006, 10:31 AM
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Well smart people go back further than one year to examine circumstances. The increase in field size reversed a 7 year trend (not an 1 year trend). For 7 years in a row, field size has been on a decline until this fall meet at Hollywood. So I am not looking at 1 year period. I tend to believe the workmans compensation problems in Cali have contributed greatly to the decline in starters year over year. And I believe they have that figured out. The decline in starters last year was because of the turf problems I believe.
You cited a bump as compared to last year.
And lets face it, racetrack handle was up at the fair circuits huge this past year, and has been a trend all year.
19% bump off the worst meet in history circumstance wise is not even what I expected.
I've been waiting for this data, and was expecting you to be the first to post about it, but I was expecting a 25-30% bump. The 19% shocked me as very low.
Increased number of dates and average races per day, the return of grass racing, and a huge trend with upwward handle this year.
Trust me, it can be spun anyway you want, But I'm sure they expected a greater increase.
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Old 12-19-2006, 10:33 AM
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You cited a bump as compared to last year.
And lets face it, racetrack handle was up at the fair circuits huge this past year, and has been a trend all year.
19% bump off the worst meet in history circumstance wise is not even what I expected.
I've been waiting for this data, and was expecting you to be the first to post about it, but I was expecting a 25-30% bump. The 19% shocked me as very low.
Increased number of dates and average races per day, the return of grass racing, and a huge trend with upwward handle this year.
Trust me, it can be spun anyway you want, But I'm sure they expected a greater increase.
You didnt answer my question. How do you explain the reversal from a 7 year pattern?
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Old 12-19-2006, 10:39 AM
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You didnt answer my question. How do you explain the reversal from a 7 year pattern?
They ran many grass races, thats why. In the past the turf course was horrible and they couldnt.
The handle should have been up way more than that with the stakes races of the turf festival back in play, more racing dates!!!!! and many more races!!! and grass racing back!!!
Do you do deny this?
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Old 12-19-2006, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by oracle80
They ran many grass races, thats why. In the past the turf course was horrible and they couldnt.
The handle should have been up way more than that with the stakes races of the turf festival back in play, more racing dates!!!!! and many more races!!! and grass racing back!!!
Do you do deny this?
I will buy that as a reason for a one year period but not a steady decline in starters over a 7 year period. Orlace, do me a favor and go back and do a historical analysis of Hollywood..compare on-track handle and field size since 1999 and compare that to the 2006 fall meet then come back with your numbers. Dont just compare the worst meet in history and use that as an excuse. Again, smart people use at least a 5 year historical analysis (like me).
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Old 12-19-2006, 10:45 AM
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Can I get a discount on the 10lb order?
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Old 12-19-2006, 10:49 AM
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Can I get a discount on the 10lb order?
Sure, 10lbs at 87 cents per pound. How does that sound?
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