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Old 12-18-2006, 06:12 AM
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it's a start. i've been saying for some time there has got to be a vet at each track, answerable to no horsemen, and all meds have to go thru him.

also, amazing isn't it how much security they can afford to keep bettors honest, but don't have the $ to put cameras in barns...
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Old 12-18-2006, 09:19 AM
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To me the solution is simple. No medication at all.
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Old 12-18-2006, 09:20 AM
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On a side note---I believe that Kentucky still doesnt have a state vet. How freaking screwed up is that.
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Old 12-18-2006, 09:28 AM
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To me the solution is simple. No medication at all.
Euro the spirit of what you are saying is ok, but its not practical. What do we do with bleeders?
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Old 12-18-2006, 09:30 AM
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Euro the spirit of what you are saying is ok, but its not practical. What do we do with bleeders?
What does Europe do with bleeders?
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Old 12-18-2006, 09:48 AM
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What does Europe do with bleeders?
2x bleeders in australia aren't allowed to race/breed. might explain why their horses can run often, carry weight, and cover distances. they are the healthy racers! unhealthy ones aren't there cluttering the scene.

as for the euros, they come here to race!
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Old 12-18-2006, 09:53 AM
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I dont know the answer to this so I am asking. A bleeder doesnt bleed everytime he/she races---correct?
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Old 12-18-2006, 09:54 AM
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2x bleeders in australia aren't allowed to race/breed. might explain why their horses can run often, carry weight, and cover distances. they are the healthy racers! unhealthy ones aren't there cluttering the scene.

as for the euros, they come here to race!
Now that is interesting. I did not know that about Austrailian horses. Good info right there.
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Old 12-18-2006, 11:48 AM
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Until the high-profile owners start taking horses away from those found guilty of these offenses, there is little deterrence. If they lack the integrity to do this, then it becomes incumbent for one of two things to happen: (1) when imposing penalties, the regulators have to rule that, during the period of the suspension, the horses may not race in the name of a family member or an assistant trainer (NY did this in the Greg Martin case); or (2) the racing associations need to deny stalls to the repeat offenders (as NYRA did with Shuman a few summers ago).

On this last score, how is it that tracks still give stalls to Scott Lake? What number suspension is he working on now? If someone is telling him after each suspension that it's his last chance, then it's (to quote Lt. Frank Drebin) "one of those major-league baseball, Steve Howe kind of last chances."
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Old 12-18-2006, 09:57 AM
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What does Europe do with bleeders?
They send a lot of them to the US where they become stakes horses.
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Old 12-18-2006, 10:14 AM
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They send a lot of them to the US where they become stakes horses.
They may send some over here. But how many do they send in comparison to how may stay over in Europe? Look at a card at any US track and see the number of horses using lasix. I find it real hard to believe that every horse that is on lasix needs it.
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Old 12-18-2006, 10:48 AM
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How ironic is it that Barry Irwin pens this opinion piece for the Bloodhorse the same week that his trainer, Todd Pletcher, has his suspension upheld by the NY courts. Once again, do as I say not as I do.
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