What in the f is wrong with this guy?

Originally Posted by Danzig188

disgusting act.
i remember a few years back, there was an incredibly talented, but mentally offbalance, football player. everyone knew he had the goods, and that he needed tons of therapy--if not more help than that. he tried to commit suicide, really didn't want to play the game anymore. attempted suicide. think his name was underwood.
owens reminds me of that guy. i know many, including myself, have blown this guy off as being a megalomaniac or primadonna. maybe it's more than that, but his team(s) cares only about how many passes he can catch. exploitation, when they're done with him as a player, they won't ever think about him again.

Ricky Williams is another. He has huge problems.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Ricky Williams is another. He has huge problems.

It's called DOPE for a REASON!!

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

It's called DOPE for a REASON!!

Its called self medicating. I could go into some of the most bizarre stuff he did at UT. One minute, he his doing all this research on Doak Walker giving this absolutely amazing speech showing great intellect, written totally by him. No one else involved. Shut himself in his room for a week, rewrote it, and it was amazing. A month later he has all his clothes all over the ground in his apartment with left over Chinese food a week old mixed in and his sister has to come over and clean up for him and drive him around...

Not quite a simple as he is a loser doper. He is ultimately responsible for not taking his medication, because he likes his highs, but the lows... you would be suprised how many people are like this. I guarantee you have coworkers who have some of these traits... well I should not guarantee... you get the picture.

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you would think he woulda learned from when Bill Romanowski spit in his face a few years back. terrible.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Its called self medicating. I could go into some of the most bizarre stuff he did at UT. One minute, he his doing all this research on Doak Walker giving this absolutely amazing speech showing great intellect, written totally by him. No one else involved. Shut himself in his room for a week, rewrote it, and it was amazing. A month later he has all his clothes all over the ground in his apartment with left over Chinese food a week old mixed in and his sister has to come over and clean up for him and drive him around...

Not quite a simple as he is a loser doper. He is ultimately responsible for not taking his medication, because he likes his highs, but the lows... you would be suprised how many people are like this. I guarantee you have coworkers who have some of these traits... well I should not guarantee... you get the picture.

Pgardn: I could possibly understand Rickys' problem(take the damn medicine) but using grass isn't self medicating...it's smoking DOPE. He seems like a nice kid..I have 4 nice kids...some drink some don't. TO is a self-absorbed butthead, and people are gonna get what he's dishing until they've had enough!

[SentToStud]

I remember 6-7 years ago there was a defensive lineman from the Chicago Bears they found walking through the snow with no shoes or jacket ... Alonzo Spellman. Now he was a sick man. Owens just seems to be an as.s who takes all the attention he can until he is punished. Talented player for sure but he'll crash again soon.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

I remember 6-7 years ago there was a defensive lineman from the Chicago Bears they found walking through the snow with no shoes or jacket ... Alonzo Spellman. Now he was a sick man. Owens just seems to be an as.s who takes all the attention he can until he is punished. Talented player for sure but he'll crash again soon.

S2S: wasn't there a thing on ESPN this week about Spellman? Did you see it? It was a long fall,man!

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

S2S: wasn't there a thing on ESPN this week about Spellman? Did you see it? It was a long fall,man!

I did not see it but remember it very well. He was roamimg around for hours; some of it was caught on tape and shown on TV. I remember Mike Singletary helped "rescue" him. It was awful.

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Pgardn: I could possibly understand Rickys' problem(take the damn medicine) but using grass isn't self medicating...it's smoking DOPE. He seems like a nice kid..I have 4 nice kids...some drink some don't. TO is a self-absorbed butthead, and people are gonna get what he's dishing until they've had enough!

Sure it is, and it definitely is in his case. Just like people who drink too much to hide from reality. Their world is too tough, so change your brain chemistry and change the perceived world. Dope, alchohlism, pretty much the same thing in my book.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Sure it is, and it definitely is in his case. Just like people who drink too much to hide from reality. Their world is too tough, so change your brain chemistry and change the perceived world. Dope, alchohlism, pretty much the same thing in my book.

Your book is a lot like my book! It is the succeeding genrations' curse that their parents tried to do too much for them,thereby denied them the needed skills to survive. 2 "hybrid" generations....have you heard that before??

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Your book is a lot like my book! It is the succeeding genrations' curse that their parents tried to do too much for them,thereby denied them the needed skills to survive. 2 "hybrid" generations....have you heard that before??

I have not.

But I do agree that some parents need to understand the idea is to help your kids learn how to exist in a world that is (I think) very fluid and much more difficult that the world I grew up in. They need to understand they are going to live in a global world, and the ability to understand the way the world they are living in works, is a great advantage.

Just making it easier by bailing kids out of every problem they face, will hurt them in the long run. just my pesos worth.