Aqu 1st

[cmorioles]

With regards to the first race winner, I had the following "early speed" numbers:

2  Mama Theresa           4-1 EP  63
1  Wisdom and Luck        5-1 EP  68
3  Charming Jill         12-1 PS  57
4  Judy Liner S.         15-1 S   61
5  Quiet Rendition       10-1 S   62
6  Miss L Woods          15-1 PS  49
7  Holy Kryptonite        9-2 P   61
8  Precise Lady           8-1 P   66
9  Two Turn Halo          8-1 P   78
10 Clever Freud          10-1 E   65
11 Point Me to It        12-1 EP  56
12 Chequ'er Alibi        30-1 PS  64

That 10 point advantage for the winner is about 3 lengths at the 1/2 mile call. I wouldn't call this a huge form reversal, just catching a field the horse could beat.

[philcski]

in the 6th the 4 figures to get the lead and the rail under JV. I'll bite.

I'd love to play the 9 at 14-1 (debut was better than it looked, made a nice move on the turn on the outside) but I don't think she can get it done with the post draw and the track condition.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Oracle,I remember very well when this guy's father died.It was like the night before the Spring Aqu Meet started last year.So,this guy wasn't around to saddle etc. his own horses.You have no idea the bloodbath that took place in that showdown contest the 1st 3 days of that meet.People were getting blown out of that contest(myself included) because of using this guy's horses when he wasn't around.I think I had 10 tickets to start that contest,and only had 2 left after the 1st 3 days of the meet.Those were some pretty good horses that were running off the board.

[philcski]

Rapid Rickey in the 7th has a chance to wire these...

5/1,2,6,9

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7806

You called him "scotty" you name dropper you!!!!
Give me a berak please. When making reference to someone in the game in an obtuse nondirect manner is not name dropping.
Saying you had lunch with them might be, but making a factual reference is not name dropping.

Any horse that wins with Herbie could possibly be considered " great ".

It certainly means she overcame a bad start.


Thats you talking about Castillo BTW.
Obviously only an imbecile would think that was name dropping, and I don't.
But basically you are saying that mentioning a guys first name is name dropping, even if in the context of a mundane factual remark.
I disagree.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Any horse that wins with Herbie could possibly be considered " great ".

It certainly means she overcame a bad start.


Thats you talking about Castillo BTW.
Obviously only an imbecile would think that was name dropping, and I don't.
But basically you are saying that mentioning a guys first name is name dropping, even if in the context of a mundane factual remark.
I disagree.

I couldn't pick Herb Castillo out from a lineup of NBA players and I call him "Herbie", that's what everybody calls him... like "Johnny V", or "Javy".

Originally Posted by philcski

I couldn't pick Herb Castillo out from a lineup of NBA players and I call him "Herbie", that's what everybody calls him... like "Johnny V", or "Javy".

And where I live, we get "Roddied" every single day. Hes a local owner who always has some nice horses. The announcers on the local otb network talk about him and his horses all day long, and they always say "roddy" and never use his last name.
Quiet frankly he may the be most famous horseguy up here in terms of coevrage by the local media.
Almost everyone up around here who doesnt even KNOW him would say "Roddy" and I doubt any of them are "name dropping".

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Any horse that wins with Herbie could possibly be considered " great ".

It certainly means she overcame a bad start.


Thats you talking about Castillo BTW.
Obviously only an imbecile would think that was name dropping, and I don't.
But basically you are saying that mentioning a guys first name is name dropping, even if in the context of a mundane factual remark.
I disagree.

Let it drop Mike.....else I will reprint Hooves's post from a month ago .

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Let it drop Mike.....else I will reprint Hooves's post from a month ago .

You do that.
And I will tell a tale of my own.
YOU let it drop.

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Oracle,I remember very well when this guy's father died.It was like the night before the Spring Aqu Meet started last year.So,this guy wasn't around to saddle etc. his own horses.You have no idea the bloodbath that took place in that showdown contest the 1st 3 days of that meet.People were getting blown out of that contest(myself included) because of using this guy's horses when he wasn't around.I think I had 10 tickets to start that contest,and only had 2 left after the 1st 3 days of the meet.Those were some pretty good horses that were running off the board.

Scuds,
It was obviously the product of a souped up track, and whenever a route horse cutting back to sprints makes an easy lead, they are very tough to beat. Those weren't exactly great horses.
I didn't bet a quarter on the race, so I really and truly didn't care.
My point in starting the thread was that "someone" might run his mouth and start ranting instead of getting the point I was making.
My point was that big time form reversals happen quite often, Yet only get noticed and fingers pointed at juice when its certain guys.