Weekend Stakes Beyers: Melatonin 108

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by KidCruz

How does Lord Nelson get a 99 and Shh-She's Ours gets a 100 (according to Brad Free) the next day stopping the clock at 1:07.75? Does anyone else agree with this? Way too much unnecessary subjectivity in my opinion. Aren't Beyer speed figures supposed to remove subjectivity? I simply don't believe the track changed that that much in than 24 hrs.

These figures were very cut and dry. The variant on Saturday was a -32 and that's what gave Lord Nelson a 99 (his raw figure was a 131). The variant on Sunday, when the track was lightning fast was -39. That gave Shh She's Ours a 100. Her raw time was obviously a 139.

There was no appreciable slowdown or speed up of the track on either day. The Gold Cup, despite having a soft pace and a weak field, was a very fast race.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

These figures were very cut and dry. The variant on Saturday was a -32 and that's what gave Lord Nelson a 99 (his raw figure was a 131). The variant on Sunday, when the track was lightning fast was -39. That gave Shh She's Ours a 100. Her raw time was obviously a 139.

There was no appreciable slowdown or speed up of the track on either day. The Gold Cup, despite having a soft pace and a weak field, was a very fast race.

So, shockingly, another person criticizing the Beyer figs did it out of ignorance.

I sure didn't see that one coming.

[KidCruz]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

So, shockingly, another person criticizing the Beyer figs did it out of ignorance.

I sure didn't see that one coming.

I didn't criticize the Beyer Figures. I just said that it seemed like maybe it was adjusted a little too much from Saturday to Sunday, noting that I am not an expert and that, after looking at the 5.5 claimers and the mile races over the two days closer, I may have been wrong and noting that I was predisposed to being impressed by a horse running Sensitively off her feet at 107 and 3.

I don't work for Beyer nor have I been crunching figs for years and years like you have. It was a discussion. Why do you have to call me ignorant?

Thanks Nick for the info btw.