1/28 (GP): $12MM Pegasus World Cup

[TheSpyder]

I just heard Trump said he's in and will win easily.

[tywizard]

I admit, when I first heard of this concept I thought it was laughable and guaranteed to fail if it was actually attempted...

After listening to Jack W on ATR I now have the opinion that it's the single most innovative thing I've seen with racing in the 15 years or so I've been closely following.

If you haven't listened to the vision laid out on Steve's show, I'd suggest you go to the archives and listen before dismissing the concept.

The most interesting aspect of all of this (to me at least) is that "non-racing" connections are apparently showing interest one of the 12 shares.

If they can execute as planned this is much more than just a $12M race.

[robfla]

Live Stream with further details:

http://livestream.com/accounts/704838/events/4147442

all spots are sold out

[freddymo]

If you are a breeder how can you not buy a slot?

[Pants II]

The breeders are going to play a big role. No doubt about it, freddy..

This has the potential to be a Triple Crown for older horses. With success it would be wise to add two more races.

Competing with Dubai and keeping the good horses over here and preventing them from disappearing is of the utmost importance.

Another Triple Crown winner wouldn't hurt either.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Pants II

The breeders are going to play a big role. No doubt about it, freddy..

This has the potential to be a Triple Crown for older horses. With success it would be wise to add two more races.

Competing with Dubai and keeping the good horses over here and preventing them from disappearing is of the utmost importance.

Another Triple Crown winner wouldn't hurt either.

I wonder if Darley would defer Nyquist to a late start to breeding? Even if he doesnt win TC it would hurt that much to delay his breeding career by 4 weeks

[Pants II]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I wonder if Darley would defer Nyquist to a late start to breeding? Even if he doesnt win TC it would hurt that much to delay his breeding career by 4 weeks

Who knows what they'll do. I'm certain they don't know most of the time.

[Benny]

http://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com...s-lofty-goals/

[Secretriat34]

Pegasus and Dragon is a 100-foot (30 m) tall statue of Pegasus defeating a dragon in Gulfstream Park, Hallandale Beach, Florida.
It is the 2nd tallest statue in the United States after the Statue of Liberty. They are also the world's tallest equine and european dragon statues.
The dragon stands 50 feet high.
The statue complex is 200 feet in length and 115 feet in width.
Pegasus is made of 330 tons of steel and 132 tons of bronze.
The dragon is made of 110 tons of steel and 132 tons of bronze.
Pegasus will feature a 5D dome theater in a rock formation underneath it.
The dragon is surrounded by musical fountains.
At night the statue will be home to a fountain show featuring 13 musical pieces, 350 fog nozzles, 116 water nozzles, special LED lighting and dragon breathing fire 20 feet during the show.
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The statue was announced in 2012 as part of a long-term expansion of Gulfstream Park that also included condominiums and more grandstands for the horse racing track.
In 2013 further details emerged showing that Pegasus was to be in the pose of stomping on a dragon. Construction on the site started in April 5, 2013 with Skanska overseeing construction.
The statue was pre-cast and shipped in from China in 23 packing containers and the steel beams were shipped in 23 shipping containers from Germany after being made by Strassacker. The project cost $30 million. By December 6, 2014 construction of the statues was completed with work on the surrounding landscaping and water features remaining to be done in the summer of 2015. Work on lighting for the fountain show and dragon's fire breath was beginning in late 2015. The complex is expected to be opened in spring 2016.

[Secretriat34]

lets type about money

all currency is in american dollars

WIN $7.00 million

PLACE $1.75 million

SHOW $1.00 million


4th a meager $250,000
5th a pitance $250,000

6 -12 $200,000

===============

In addition, slot holders will
receive 1/12th of the net revenue the race generates in
wagering, media rights, and sponsorships.

Although NBC will televise the Pegasus, channel 5.1 at 3:30 following figure skating 130 -330
The Stronach Group is paying for that air time, so no money will flow to the slot
holders from TV.

Slot holders also retain first preference for entering the 2018 edition of the Pegasus.

[ScottJ]

Originally Posted by Secretriat34

lets type about money

all currency is in american dollars

WIN $7.00 million

PLACE $1.75 million

SHOW $1.00 million

4th a meager $250,000
5th a pitance $250,000

6 -12 $200,000

===============

In addition, slot holders will
receive 1/12th of the net revenue the race generates in
wagering, media rights, and sponsorships.

Although NBC will televise the Pegasus, channel 5.1 at 3:30 following figure skating 130 -330
The Stronach Group is paying for that air time, so no money will flow to the slot
holders from TV.

Slot holders also retain first preference for entering the 2018 edition of the Pegasus.

Again, I find myself being one of the nay-sayers when I see numbers like those from this posted. These purely business points that suggest that the Pegasus World Cup will not be a long term fixture.

[1] There appears to be absolutely no interest in broadcasting this race as it has very limited national appeal despite the Chrome vs. Arrogate rematch. We are one week out from the race and I have not seen anything on NBC or any other national network discussing the race. TVG has provided some coverage.

[2] According to what I read this morning, gate admission to Gulfstream is $100.00 per person on Pegasus day not to mention parking passes $50.00) and all of the other up-charges. What is the expected attendance for that type of gate charge? Will Gulfstream attract over or under 12,000 people for that kind of money? Personally, I would go under.

[3] If your entry finishes third or worse, completely possible given the field structure, how quickly are you ready to fire another speculative million at the pot for next year? (Maybe there are outfits lined up to kick in their $1,000,000? Who are they?)

[4] Wait until the post position draw this week. Put both Arrogate and Chrome in the ten, eleven, or twelve posts and your marquee match-up suddenly is upended. Worse, put only one of them in the outside slots.

[Kasept]

Baffert proclaims Arrogate ready for Pegasus World Cup
By Steve Andersen

ARCADIA, Calif.- For three consecutive weekends this month, Arrogate has worked prior to the first race at Santa Anita. With each workout, trainer Bob Baffert has expressed confidence Arrogate is on schedule for the $12 million Pegasus World Cup at Gulfstream Park on Jan. 28.

After Arrogate worked six furlongs in 1:12.13 at Santa Anita late Saturday morning, Baffert said the world-class 4-year-old colt is prepared for the world’s richest race. Recent wet weather in Southern California that has forced changes in Arrogate’s daily training schedule will not be an excuse.

“He’s ready for a challenge,” Baffert said. “He is so fit.”

The Pegasus World Cup is run at 1 1/8 miles. The race will be a rematch between Arrogate and California Chrome, the first two finishers in the Breeders’ Cup Classic at Santa Anita on Nov. 5.

Saturday, Arrogate worked on a sealed and sloppy track a day after Santa Anita sustained more than two inches of rain in the latest in a series of storms that have pummeled the region in recent weeks.

“I’ve been on pins and needles with this weather pattern,” Baffert said. “The track was in great shape for as wet as it was.”

Arrogate worked in company with his regular workout companion, the maiden Uninvited. Arrogate started eight lengths behind Uninvited, a margin quickly reduced to four lengths on the backstretch.

Arrogate ran the opening quarter-mile in 24.82 seconds and remained about four lengths behind Uninvited on the backstretch and around the turn, through a half-mile in 48.87. Arrogate was within two lengths of Uninvited a furlong before the wire and was in front of his stablemate at the wire, through six furlongs in 1:12.13.

“I didn’t want to go along too fast,” Baffert said. “We know he can close on a horse. He has the gears.”

Arrogate, who was ridden in the workout by jockey Martin Garcia, galloped out strongly, well in front of Uninvited, going seven furlongs in 1:24.33 and a mile in 1:38.82.

Earlier this month, Arrogate worked six furlongs in 1:11.80 on Jan. 8 and six furlongs in 1:12.20 on Jan. 15.

“He’s getting stronger every week,” Baffert said. “He’s maturing and getting better.”

Owned by Juddmonte Farms, the 4-year-old Arrogate has won 5 of 6 starts. He is unbeaten in two stakes, having won the Grade 1 Travers Stakes at Saratoga last August.

Mike Smith has the mount on Arrogate in the Pegasus World Cup.

[ADJMK]

Originally Posted by ScottJ

Again, I find myself being one of the nay-sayers when I see numbers like those from this posted. These purely business points that suggest that the Pegasus World Cup will not be a long term fixture.

[1] There appears to be absolutely no interest in broadcasting this race as it has very limited national appeal despite the Chrome vs. Arrogate rematch. We are one week out from the race and I have not seen anything on NBC or any other national network discussing the race. TVG has provided some coverage.

[2] According to what I read this morning, gate admission to Gulfstream is $100.00 per person on Pegasus day not to mention parking passes $50.00) and all of the other up-charges. What is the expected attendance for that type of gate charge? Will Gulfstream attract over or under 12,000 people for that kind of money? Personally, I would go under.

[3] If your entry finishes third or worse, completely possible given the field structure, how quickly are you ready to fire another speculative million at the pot for next year? (Maybe there are outfits lined up to kick in their $1,000,000? Who are they?)

[4] Wait until the post position draw this week. Put both Arrogate and Chrome in the ten, eleven, or twelve posts and your marquee match-up suddenly is upended. Worse, put only one of them in the outside slots.

I guess people are willing to pay those kind of prices for other sporting events or rock concerts but I agree with you and can't see them breaking the gates down to get in. Will be a lot of so called "celebs" attending on their free tickets.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Horrific draw for California Chrome. Going 9F at GP from the 12 hole is a death sentence. Tough break.

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Horrific draw for California Chrome. Going 9F at GP from the 12 hole is a death sentence. Tough break.

Is this the excuse?

[ScottJ]

Originally Posted by ScottJ

[4] Wait until the post position draw this week. Put both Arrogate and Chrome in the ten, eleven, or twelve posts and your marquee match-up suddenly is upended. Worse, put only one of them in the outside slots.

Well, look at this outcome. Can Chrome be any better than four or five wide in that first turn if pressing towards the top? Alternatively, can the horse close from ten lengths off the pace if they decide not to leave with him?

[Secretriat34]

Originally Posted by TheSpyder

I just heard Trump said he's in and will win easily.

if trump runs..

i vote for him on his newly acquired Russian colt