Jorge Navarro

[philcski]

Originally Posted by cakes44

If an owner was smart, and they had some lonshot horse that sneaks in the KD like Trojan Nation or something, they would send the horse to Navarro right after the last prep, then CRUSH the horse at the windows on Derby day.

On Derby Day, you can get $5-7k down without moving the needle. Get one home at 14-1 like he did twice and you're looking at $75-100k, which even if you get busted in the post race test they can't take back- and if you don't, you're $300k richer.

There is no logical way that horse should have been able to survive a speed duel going 44 3/5 while 5 wide and then draw off while holding off grade 1 closers like Calculator, Salutos Amigos, and Kobe's Back.

[saratogadew]

the derby has changed. we need the sprinters back in the race. point system sucks.

[richard burch]

Mr. Navarro numbers....

As long shots it's not that surprising they came in. Shenanigans? Maybe.... Both entries won their last 2 starts. Both had good works heading into the races and maybe better than there odds indicated. so if they were given a boost somehow they surely would be better.

a rule maybe should be when you see a Navarro horse, hit the all button just in case.

st w p s earn

2016 169 53 33 18 $1,992,106
2015 436 112 68 55 $3,837,692
2014 413 114 78 58 $2,281,140

2016 looks like his best year so far. where they all juiced? couldn't find any violations in KY but he has a sketchy past. http://khrc.ky.gov/Pages/rulings.aspx

such as...One day after Jorge Navarro took the trainer’s title at Monmouth Park in New Jersey, he began serving a 60-day suspension under a consent order he reached with Florida regulators over six positives for the painkiller flunixin during the 2011-12 meet at Tampa Bay Downs.

http://www.paulickreport.com/news/ra...rmitted-level/

well check that link in a few days and see if his name pops up.

[hondo]

Being from Jersey I have seen his runners a lot and heard a lot of the rumors. I don't know what is true or not but his horses do win a lot.....but are usually at very low odds and you learn to factor him in. Both those horses outran expectations but usable and knowing Navarro I used both in secondary P3 wagers that came through nicely...I am certain I have lost many wagers when games were played.

[Gaelic Storm]

The workout reports touted both horses.

[richard burch]

Originally Posted by Gaelic Storm

The workout reports touted both horses.

glad you agree....Both entries won their last 2 starts. Both had good works heading into the races and maybe better than there odds indicated.

[freddymo]

Mad I didnt use those in 2 in multi's.. You have to adjust as a player and if navarro is in field with a reasonable horse you simply have to use him on your tickets.

IF he is juicing then "they" need to catch him until then he is a must use with anything that looks close to formidable

[Pants II]

Originally Posted by saratogadew

the derby has changed. we need the sprinters back in the race. point system sucks.

It does.

The lack of races for most of the field sucks too. The layoff for Destin was ridiculous. These owners are owned by statisticians.

Makes for boring big days.