A funny thing happened on the way to the coronation...

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by jms62

Care to substantiate that statement?

In short, if the very enthusiastic and supportive Bernie crowd continues to see their guy win primaries, and yet, somehow, due to super delegates, he does not come up with the majority and the nomination....people could react emotionally. This is understandable since not everyone understands the esoteric rules.

Hillary got the same delegates for New Hampshire as Bernie, and he beat her by 22 percentage points. Do that a few times and this will get tense.

Now the reverse is true - if Clinton starts really winning, then the will of the primary voters in the states and that of the delegates will not be misaligned, and all will be fine in the Democratic party. But a misalignment is a possibility from where we are now, looking forward.

[jms62]

Originally Posted by joeydb

In short, if the very enthusiastic and supportive Bernie crowd continues to see their guy win primaries, and yet, somehow, due to super delegates, he does not come up with the majority and the nomination....people could react emotionally. This is understandable since not everyone understands the esoteric rules.

Hillary got the same delegates for New Hampshire as Bernie, and he beat her by 22 percentage points. Do that a few times and this will get tense.

Now the reverse is true - if Clinton starts really winning, then the will of the primary voters in the states and that of the delegates will not be misaligned, and all will be fine in the Democratic party. But a misalignment is a possibility from where we are now, looking forward.

I agree with what you are saying regarding the rules but I don't see much fire in the belly of Bernie Supporters. They are too busy Tweeting, taking selfies and hooking up on Tinder.

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by jms62

I agree with what you are saying regarding the rules but I don't see much fire in the belly of Bernie Supporters. They are too busy Tweeting, taking selfies and hooking up on Tinder.

Of course you could be right, especially when it comes to the amount of motivation they might or might not have.

Here is an article that asserts that the situation is at least getting some attention:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...mocrats-219286

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by joeydb

In short, if the very enthusiastic and supportive Bernie crowd continues to see their guy win primaries, and yet, somehow, due to super delegates, he does not come up with the majority and the nomination....people could react emotionally. This is understandable since not everyone understands the esoteric rules.

Hillary got the same delegates for New Hampshire as Bernie, and he beat her by 22 percentage points. Do that a few times and this will get tense.

Now the reverse is true - if Clinton starts really winning, then the will of the primary voters in the states and that of the delegates will not be misaligned, and all will be fine in the Democratic party. But a misalignment is a possibility from where we are now, looking forward.

I guess you missed the details in the article regarding superdelegates and that of course they could end up sanders'?

[GenuineRisk]

I really enjoyed this piece by Gawker writer Tom Scocca about his first-hand and varying-degrees-of-second-hand encounters with the Clintons:

http://gawker.com/my-conflict-1758741736

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Danzig

I guess you missed the details in the article regarding superdelegates and that of course they could end up sanders'?

Of course they might, but as of right now there is a conflict between the apparent will of the people of the party and the superdelegates. Everything I pointed out was predicated on that continuing too long.

[joeydb]

[OldDog]

Hillary loses it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO-sgjJ36eo

Really? Sick that Democrats won't simply give her the crown?

[jms62]

Originally Posted by OldDog

Hillary loses it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO-sgjJ36eo

Really? Sick that Democrats won't simply give her the crown?

If that is your definition of someone losing it you have led a VERY VERY sheltered life.. And I can't stand the lady cause her and her husband epitomizes those using government office to enrich themselves.

[OldDog]

Indeed. Presidential candidate shaking hands on a rope line furrows brow, raises voice and jabs finger. Classic Bubba technique, including obfuscation and straw man attacks.

Wait . . . having a flashback

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CzteDucRHo

[richard burch]

FBI is going to take her down.

[joeydb]

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by richard burch

FBI is going to take her down.

They have to go through the DOJ, which is solidly behind Hillary.
http://freebeacon.com/issues/hillary...ent-employees/

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by OldDog

They have to go through the DOJ, which is solidly behind Hillary.
http://freebeacon.com/issues/hillary...ent-employees/

Not so fast. Sanders has won 19 states, while Hillary's unfavorable numbers - particularly with working class white males (who vote, religiously), are at an all time high for a Dem candidate.

This is getting more real every single day, this notion that she will be trounced by Trump in the swing states.

Would not be shocked in the least to see DNC go to Obama, tell him it's time, Lynch then gets the nod and the DOJ moves forward, by the Democratic Party's hand - in order to install Biden at the Dem Convention to fight it out with Sanders...and you know who wins that (Spoiler - Not feeling the Bern).

If I were Trump's campaign, I would have a back up game plan for Biden to come out of Philly with the candidacy.

[Pants II]

Ok she visited the bluegrass state yesterday and brought with her tornadoes, hail, and flooding.

And a crowd of maybe 80 people.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by OldDog

They have to go through the DOJ, which is solidly behind Hillary.
http://freebeacon.com/issues/hillary...ent-employees/

how in the hell how have we gotten to the point of it being her or trump?!
what a complete cluster **** of an election. it's appalling.

[Pants II]

McCain-Obama is ok
Romney-Obama is ok

But Trump-Clinton?

Omg *ostrich running around with head off*

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Pants II

McCain-Obama is ok
Romney-Obama is ok

But Trump-Clinton?

Omg *ostrich running around with head off*

Shocking to see myopic, fat, lazy cows that spend all their time online railing about gender-sensitive bathroom policies and micro-aggressions whilst their nation circles the drain, can't get a grip on "how we got here".

Go figure.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Not so fast. Sanders has won 19 states, while Hillary's unfavorable numbers - particularly with working class white males (who vote, religiously), are at an all time high for a Dem candidate.

This is getting more real every single day, this notion that she will be trounced by Trump in the swing states.

Would not be shocked in the least to see DNC go to Obama, tell him it's time, Lynch then gets the nod and the DOJ moves forward, by the Democratic Party's hand - in order to install Biden at the Dem Convention to fight it out with Sanders...and you know who wins that (Spoiler - Not feeling the Bern).

If I were Trump's campaign, I would have a back up game plan for Biden to come out of Philly with the candidacy.

Feel free to read between the lines:
http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/11/politi...ss_igoogle_cnn

[Pants II]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Shocking to see myopic, fat, lazy cows that spend all their time online railing about gender-sensitive bathroom policies and micro-aggressions whilst their nation circles the drain, can't get a grip on "how we got here".

Go figure.

People who have had trauma from a Christian upbringing are the easiest to manipulate and control.

Add that to bad food, water, pharmaceuticals, etc and you get a big ol' Marxist pig.