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Old 12-15-2006, 12:25 PM
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Personally?

Good: Jazil winning the Belmont Stakes, Invasor was VERY exciting to me overall; unleashed in the Pimlico Stakes, holding off Sun King in a thriller and than taking the BCC.

Bad: The death of Saint Liam
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Old 12-15-2006, 12:39 PM
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Most memorable moments were:

1. Discreet Cat's Cigar Mile. I haven't looked forward to a race with that much anticipation in a long time and to see him deliver the way he did made it well worth the wait.

2. Bernardini's collection of works. Even though he lost in the Classic and the competition he faced in his other races was weak, watching him run was a pleasure. He ran with such an effortless ease and I have no doubts in my mind that he's the real deal.

3. Ouija Board in the BC. Watching the old girl do it once again was special. A true world champion.

As for whether or not I think it was a good year for racing, I don't think it was. But I think it's getting to be the norm rather than the exception when we keep hearing about horses retired early for whatever reasons, trainers being suspended for drug violations, etc. All of the bad news is not even knews anymore. It's becoming the norm.
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Old 12-15-2006, 12:39 PM
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Bad: Jazil winning the Belmont Stakes. (In a year when the 3-year-old division was loaded with stars who had blockbuster talent....this nag who is still elidgible for an N2X Alw race wins one of the three Classics.)

Good: The death of Saint Liam. (Just what the breed needed...another stallion who didn't thrive until he was placed in the care of a notorious move-up trainer)




I know, I know....it's very mean to say the death of a superstar horse (or any horse for that matter) is a good thing...especially coming from someone who's been a vegetarian for three and a half weeks now----but, maybe it a good thing for the breed anyway. Basically, I saw Sightseek's two big events a little differently.
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Old 12-15-2006, 12:44 PM
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Yah you really got love the death of a champion at a young age, no doubt.

I thought the most memorable moment came when Barbaro just left them for dead at the top of the lane in the Derby.
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Old 12-15-2006, 12:45 PM
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Good: Barbaro's races, especially the Derby and the recent news that he may soon be released from the hospital!
Bad: all the breakdowns and passing of old friends!
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Old 12-15-2006, 12:47 PM
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Being serious this time....

Good: Any one of Discreet Cat's wins

Bad: Barbaro's Preakness
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Old 12-15-2006, 01:08 PM
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Good: Barbaro's Derby win.
Bad: The Preakness.
Worse: Cringing every time I had to watch Discreet Cat win a nothing race while facing nothing horses, and knowing I'd have to hear how great he was from Drugs later in the week.
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Old 12-15-2006, 01:12 PM
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Worse: Cringing every time I had to watch Discreet Cat win a nothing race while facing nothing horses, and knowing I'd have to hear how great he was from Drugs later in the week.
Identify yourself....
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Old 12-15-2006, 12:49 PM
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Good: Barbaro's races, especially the Derby and the recent news that he may soon be released from the hospital!
Bad: all the breakdowns and passing of old friends!
That day will probably be the greatest of them all for me.
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Old 12-15-2006, 12:52 PM
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Good:Jackson's making the decision to try and save Barbaro's life.

Bad: St Liam passing on.
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Old 12-15-2006, 01:03 PM
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The Best...

1. Invasor's BC Classic
2. Discreet Cat's Cigar Mile
3. Pine Island's Alabama

The Worst...

1. Death of Pine Island
2. Death of Paseana
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Old 12-15-2006, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Bad: Jazil winning the Belmont Stakes. (In a year when the 3-year-old division was loaded with stars who had blockbuster talent....this nag who is still elidgible for an N2X Alw race wins one of the three Classics.)

Good: The death of Saint Liam. (Just what the breed needed...another stallion who didn't thrive until he was placed in the care of a notorious move-up trainer)




I know, I know....it's very mean to say the death of a superstar horse (or any horse for that matter) is a good thing...especially coming from someone who's been a vegetarian for three and a half weeks now----but, maybe it a good thing for the breed anyway. Basically, I saw Sightseek's two big events a little differently.
Way to show your true colors. Wish death upon a horse because you don't like his trainer. Very classy.
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Old 12-15-2006, 01:13 PM
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Way to show your true colors. Wish death upon a horse because you don't like his trainer. Very classy.
Where did u read that? He didn't wish death upon anyone just said that he thought it could be good for the sport that another drugged up horse is not out there messing the game up anymore. It's really no different than people who think unsound horses shouldn't be bred. Maybe the way he said it was a bit hard but the point is a valid one IMO.
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Old 12-15-2006, 01:18 PM
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Where did u read that? He didn't wish death upon anyone just said that he thought it could be good for the sport that another drugged up horse is not out there messing the game up anymore. It's really no different than people who think unsound horses shouldn't be bred. Maybe the way he said it was a bit hard but the point is a valid one IMO.
Like the people that would have bred to him anyways won't just go breed to another drugged up stallion. Calling his death the best moment of the year is tasteless and not even the least bit humorous. Taking someone's best and worst moments and reversing them is at best a lack of creativity and at worst rude.
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Old 12-15-2006, 01:25 PM
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Like the people that would have bred to him anyways won't just go breed to another drugged up stallion. Calling his death the best moment of the year is tasteless and not even the least bit humorous. Taking someone's best and worst moments and reversing them is at best a lack of creativity and at worst rude.
I wouldn't have gone so far as calling it the best moment of the year myself. But I did at least see where he was going with that.

The comments about Jazil winning the Belmont though, I agree with them 100%. It's a sad day in the sport when horses like that can win races that are supposed to be among our better ones. Same as when Giacomo won the Derby, Wilko won the BC Juv, Sarava won the Belmont. Sure, it's great for the owners and the fans of those horses but it speaks more to the quality of our races, or lack thereof, when these kinds of things happen.
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Old 12-15-2006, 09:34 PM
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Best Moment = the most exciting race for me personally this year was The Azeri at Oaklawn...Round Pond and Happy Ticket literally go eyeball to eyeball from gate to wire and Round Pond wins by an eyeball...great race...

Worst Moment = Being mistaken for a woman in the early Derby Trail days....lmaooooooooooo.....
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Old 12-16-2006, 12:24 PM
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BEST of 2006:

Barbaro's Derby
Bernardini's Preakness
Pine Island's Alabama

WORST of 2006

Lost in the Fog
Barabro's Preakness
BC Distaff (Pine Island & Fleet Indian)
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Old 12-15-2006, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by King Glorious
Where did u read that? He didn't wish death upon anyone just said that he thought it could be good for the sport that another drugged up horse is not out there messing the game up anymore. It's really no different than people who think unsound horses shouldn't be bred. Maybe the way he said it was a bit hard but the point is a valid one IMO.
I would NEVER wish death upon a horse....

I save those wishes for people.


In all seriousness....hearing about Saint Liam's death did not make me feel good in any way at all. I just STRONGLY disagreed with Sightseek's best moment (Jazil's Belmont)....and, though Saint Liam's sudden and early death was sad....a rational case could be made that it wasn't a bad thing for the breed...especially when you look at St. Liam's carrer both Pre and Post Dutrow Jr.
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Old 12-15-2006, 01:25 PM
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Lost in the Fog's sad and early death hasn't yet been mentioned....

Another horse from a "move-up" trainer with otherworldly stats.
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Old 12-15-2006, 01:26 PM
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I would NEVER wish death upon a horse....

I save those wishes for people.


In all seriousness....hearing about Saint Liam's death did not make me feel good in any way at all. I just STRONGLY disagreed with Sightseek's best moment (Jazil's Belmont)....and, though Saint Liam's sudden and early death was sad....a rational case could be made that it wasn't a bad thing for the breed...especially when you look at St. Liam's carrer both Pre and Post Dutrow Jr.
And it was a PERSONAL response, so you felt you needed to knock both me and something I personally enjoyed? Nice to meet you too. By the way, that is Wild Desert in my avatar, would you like to argue that his sudden death would be good too?

This wasn't a thread about the quality of certain horses, which I'd be the first to admit he wasn't the best of the year, but I liked him. Personally I'm not wild about Discreet Cat (who is a talented horse), but could care less that that is YOUR personal favorite moment.
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