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Old 02-12-2016, 02:00 PM
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We could see a 1968 style meltdown at the Democratic National Convention. I'll have my popcorn ready and a cold beer...
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Old 02-12-2016, 02:52 PM
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We could see a 1968 style meltdown at the Democratic National Convention. I'll have my popcorn ready and a cold beer...
Care to substantiate that statement?
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Old 02-14-2016, 11:36 PM
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In short, if the very enthusiastic and supportive Bernie crowd continues to see their guy win primaries, and yet, somehow, due to super delegates, he does not come up with the majority and the nomination....people could react emotionally. This is understandable since not everyone understands the esoteric rules.

Hillary got the same delegates for New Hampshire as Bernie, and he beat her by 22 percentage points. Do that a few times and this will get tense.

Now the reverse is true - if Clinton starts really winning, then the will of the primary voters in the states and that of the delegates will not be misaligned, and all will be fine in the Democratic party. But a misalignment is a possibility from where we are now, looking forward.
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Old 02-15-2016, 12:00 PM
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In short, if the very enthusiastic and supportive Bernie crowd continues to see their guy win primaries, and yet, somehow, due to super delegates, he does not come up with the majority and the nomination....people could react emotionally. This is understandable since not everyone understands the esoteric rules.

Hillary got the same delegates for New Hampshire as Bernie, and he beat her by 22 percentage points. Do that a few times and this will get tense.

Now the reverse is true - if Clinton starts really winning, then the will of the primary voters in the states and that of the delegates will not be misaligned, and all will be fine in the Democratic party. But a misalignment is a possibility from where we are now, looking forward.
I agree with what you are saying regarding the rules but I don't see much fire in the belly of Bernie Supporters. They are too busy Tweeting, taking selfies and hooking up on Tinder.
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Old 02-15-2016, 12:16 PM
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I agree with what you are saying regarding the rules but I don't see much fire in the belly of Bernie Supporters. They are too busy Tweeting, taking selfies and hooking up on Tinder.
Of course you could be right, especially when it comes to the amount of motivation they might or might not have.

Here is an article that asserts that the situation is at least getting some attention:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/0...mocrats-219286
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Old 02-15-2016, 01:59 PM
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In short, if the very enthusiastic and supportive Bernie crowd continues to see their guy win primaries, and yet, somehow, due to super delegates, he does not come up with the majority and the nomination....people could react emotionally. This is understandable since not everyone understands the esoteric rules.

Hillary got the same delegates for New Hampshire as Bernie, and he beat her by 22 percentage points. Do that a few times and this will get tense.

Now the reverse is true - if Clinton starts really winning, then the will of the primary voters in the states and that of the delegates will not be misaligned, and all will be fine in the Democratic party. But a misalignment is a possibility from where we are now, looking forward.
I guess you missed the details in the article regarding superdelegates and that of course they could end up sanders'?
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I really enjoyed this piece by Gawker writer Tom Scocca about his first-hand and varying-degrees-of-second-hand encounters with the Clintons:

http://gawker.com/my-conflict-1758741736
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Old 02-16-2016, 02:27 PM
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I guess you missed the details in the article regarding superdelegates and that of course they could end up sanders'?
Of course they might, but as of right now there is a conflict between the apparent will of the people of the party and the superdelegates. Everything I pointed out was predicated on that continuing too long.
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Hillary loses it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO-sgjJ36eo

Really? Sick that Democrats won't simply give her the crown?
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Ok she visited the bluegrass state yesterday and brought with her tornadoes, hail, and flooding.

And a crowd of maybe 80 people.
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Old 05-11-2016, 02:50 PM
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trump won't release his returns...breaking from precedent. every nominee has released, since 1976. and a break from the advice given to Romney in the last election, from trump himself.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donal...ry?id=39039525

most likely because he doesn't want his idiot followers to know he's been lying about his wealth. his one 'claim to fame' is he's a businessman.. bad enough the bankruptcies, but to have people find out he's not the tycoon he claims? that much of his 'wealth' is inflated based on his perceived value of his name...can't have that.

and then there's this....one of the few things he has released. smh

http://fortune.com/2016/03/02/donald...eturns-income/
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Obama never ran a lemonade stand, much less a business. Neither did Hillary or Bernie.

Bernie was writing erotic porn about white girls liking rough stuff. You know...typical 'art' from Marxist cucks.
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Old 05-11-2016, 02:55 PM
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Chelsea’s Husband’s Hedge Fund a TOTAL DISASTER, Closes After Losing 90% of its Value

http://truthfeed.com/?p=2260

Trump will release his tax returns when the Clinton's release DNA results on Chelsea.

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Old 05-11-2016, 03:01 PM
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Yeah guys never lie about how much they're worth and how much they're packing. Naw. Well that's a sign of outright dishonesty and quite frankly Hitler-esque tendencies.

WE GET IT, LARD ASS.
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Old 05-11-2016, 03:20 PM
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trump won't release his returns...breaking from precedent. every nominee has released, since 1976. and a break from the advice given to Romney in the last election, from trump himself.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donal...ry?id=39039525

most likely because he doesn't want his idiot followers to know he's been lying about his wealth. his one 'claim to fame' is he's a businessman.. bad enough the bankruptcies, but to have people find out he's not the tycoon he claims? that much of his 'wealth' is inflated based on his perceived value of his name...can't have that.

and then there's this....one of the few things he has released. smh

http://fortune.com/2016/03/02/donald...eturns-income/
What fucl<ing business is it of yours? He is a private citizen, that runs a private company, that hasn't made a dime from public office, nor solicited a red cent from anyone in exchange for favors.

Do you know how much money the Saudi Royal Family has given HRC's campaign?
Are you not concerned that as Secretary of State, she's been taking money from foreign governments (through her *Foundation* wink, wink) and then giving said countries preferential access in return?
Are you outraged that she (who earns a salary of 203K per annum) and her unemployed husband somehow made nearly 30 million dollars last year (at least that what is reported - god only knows what it really is).
Does it disturb you that she won't she release the transcripts of the speeches she gave to Wall St. Investment Banks?

If your answers are No, No, No, and No - then you are an ignorant, lazy slob.

You are someone who would probably copy someone else's huffpo opinions and paste them here as your own.

Oh wait.

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Old 05-11-2016, 03:33 PM
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The s.hitlibs want his tax returns because they run the IRS and they know rich people have huge advantages. By design. All they care about are his returns. They're hoping his accountants and attorneys don't have the same knowledge as Hillary's accountants and attorneys.

These s.hitlibs are on meltdown mode. And if they bring in hair plug joker face to replace her they'll be considering mass suicide by thanksgiving.
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http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/11/politi...rns/index.html

So, for casinos he released them....
But for president?! Well, hell no
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