Black Monday

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Mike A

I was referring to Cousins, sorry about not being clear. Bradford is going to get $12-15 M if you keep him, not sure what the length of contract he'll get

To take a division rivals starting QB could help in more than 1 way

Cousins is going to get paid to stay in DC. Young Daniel will see to that.

Not going anywhere.

The Eagles need to revamp their entire offense in the wake of Chip Kelly. A lot of the existing pieces will not fit a traditional Pro-Style Offense, they were hodgepodged together to fit Kelly's wacko scheme. Getting rid of Desean Jackson, Jeremy Macklin and Lesean McCoy was beyond idiotic, they were big pieces that are not easily replaced plus unless you are getting a 1st round QB, he is going to have to grow into the role.

They'll likely stick with Bradford and build an offense around him, then draft a QB when they have a servicable offense in place.

Anyone that thinks this team is a new coach and year away from being competitive again is delusional.

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Cousins is going to get paid to stay in DC. Young Daniel will see to that.

Not going anywhere.

The Eagles need to revamp their entire offense in the wake of Chip Kelly. A lot of the existing pieces will not fit a traditional Pro-Style Offense, they were hodgepodged together to fit Kelly's wacko scheme. Getting rid of Desean Jackson, Jeremy Macklin and Lesean McCoy was beyond idiotic, they were big pieces that are not easily replaced plus unless you are getting a 1st round QB, he is going to have to grow into the role.

They'll likely stick with Bradford and build an offense around him, then draft a QB when they have a servicable offense in place.

Anyone that thinks this team is a new coach and year away from being competitive again is delusional.

I can see them winning the East next year IF the moves they make in the offseason turn out to be the right moves. I mean, HELL, they almost were in it this year and its been beyond the most miserable year for them in quite some time.

Its not like any of the other 3 teams in the division are world beaters.

Enjoy the playoffs this year, win or lose. The Skins took care of business this year. I give them props. Next year is a whole new bowl of wax, just like every year in the division.


and yes people, I know. Winning the NFC East doesnt necessarily mean theyre competitive against the higher echelon of teams.

[casp0555]

originally posted in the nfl 2015 thread....

CBS Sports panel discussion on changes and possibles....

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-...ngs-candidates

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

I can see them winning the East next year IF the moves they make in the offseason turn out to be the right moves. I mean, HELL, they almost were in it this year and its been beyond the most miserable year for them in quite some time.

Its not like any of the other 3 teams in the division are world beaters.

Enjoy the playoffs this year, win or lose. The Skins took care of business this year. I give them props. Next year is a whole new bowl of wax, just like every year in the division.


and yes people, I know. Winning the NFC East doesnt necessarily mean theyre competitive against the higher echelon of teams.

If the Cowboys don't lose Romo and Dez they would have run away with the division and we're all licking our wounds and trying to find answers. The Skins sort of inherited the East by default, though I have to give Cousins credit - once he got regular reps and a rhythm with the 1st team, he shined. The O line could still use some help, there Safetys are getting a little long in the tooth, but nothing that can't be upgraded for next year. I'd suspect they will be near the top of the division with the Cowboys next season.

The Eagles have a lot of needs - the have easily the best TE's in the East, but again, it really will depend on what sort of offensive blocking scheme the new OC runs - Zone read vs. Power vs. Gap .... completely different styles of play... you may have guys there now that can't adapt - it happens all the time. It typically take 2 years for a HC to develop a squad around his system including getting rid of players that don't fit. we'll just have to watch and see.

I'm personally bummed - I thought Chip Kelly would have had high flying offense running on all cylinders by now - that would have been exciting to watch...unfortunately it seems as though his system wasn't all that difficult to crack once the film was out

[Crown@club]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

If the Cowboys don't lose Romo and Dez they would have run away with the division and we're all licking our wounds and trying to find answers. The Skins sort of inherited the East by default, though I have to give Cousins credit - once he got regular reps and a rhythm with the 1st team, he shined. The O line could still use some help, there Safetys are getting a little long in the tooth, but nothing that can't be upgraded for next year. I'd suspect they will be near the top of the division with the Cowboys next season.

The Eagles have a lot of needs - the have easily the best TE's in the East, but again, it really will depend on what sort of offensive blocking scheme the new OC runs - Zone read vs. Power vs. Gap .... completely different styles of play... you may have guys there now that can't adapt - it happens all the time. It typically take 2 years for a HC to develop a squad around his system including getting rid of players that don't fit. we'll just have to watch and see.

I'm personally bummed - I thought Chip Kelly would have had high flying offense running on all cylinders by now - that would have been exciting to watch...unfortunately it seems as though his system wasn't all that difficult to crack once the film was out

I wouldn't necessarily say the Eagles have the best TEs in the East even though Reed could be a concussion away from ending his career and Carrier rehabbing torn ACL. Philly could be axing Celek in March.

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by Crown@club

I wouldn't necessary say the Eagles have the best TEs in the East even though Reed could be a concussion away from ending his career and Carrier rehabbing torn ACL. Philly could be axing Celek in March.

Celek is primarily a blocker. If he parts ways, I say they bring in a TE of his caliber to take over those duties, all while getting Ertz and Trey Burton more reps.

I do, however, like Reed & Carrier. Reed is a nightmare of a TE to match up with for linebackers. Plus, he's won my brother and I a little bit of coin this year.

[Danzig]

Colts keep pagano.

[casp0555]

Payton staying in NOLA....

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14...orleans-saints

[Mike A]

I see the Skins paying Cousins what ever he wants, tag price at worse.
Iggles keep Bradford, the length of the contract could be tricky, get up-grade on O line, say good by to Cooper.
Mathews looks to be improving, TE's are good enough

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Cousins is going to get paid to stay in DC. Young Daniel will see to that.

Not going anywhere.

The Eagles need to revamp their entire offense in the wake of Chip Kelly. A lot of the existing pieces will not fit a traditional Pro-Style Offense, they were hodgepodged together to fit Kelly's wacko scheme. Getting rid of Desean Jackson, Jeremy Macklin and Lesean McCoy was beyond idiotic, they were big pieces that are not easily replaced plus unless you are getting a 1st round QB, he is going to have to grow into the role.

They'll likely stick with Bradford and build an offense around him, then draft a QB when they have a servicable offense in place.

Anyone that thinks this team is a new coach and year away from being competitive again is delusional.

how not to be a coach, written by chip kelley
he thought he could make anyone good with his system. ooops

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Danzig

how not to be a coach, written by chip kelley
he thought he could make anyone good with his system. ooops

It's not unlike the current situation in Tampa. They brought in Lovie and gave him final say in personnel decisions. Big mistake. They are at the least another year away now because he blew up a functional defense to bring in "His Guys" who turned out to be mostly retreaded free agents looking for a quick payday. Most of them are gone, and now there are glaring holes on the D line (one of the lowest pass rushing lines in the NFL) and secondary. To give him credit - when healthy, they have a solid Linebacking Corps.

I truly have no earthly idea what a GM in the NFL does anymore.

Hopefully this experiment is over and HC's go back to doing what they are paid to do - coach the players they are given by designing schemes around the strengths and talents of the team.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

It's not unlike the current situation in Tampa. They brought in Lovie and gave him final say in personnel decisions. Big mistake. They are at the least another year away now because he blew up a functional defense to bring in "His Guys" who turned out to be mostly retreaded free agents looking for a quick payday. Most of them are gone, and now there are glaring holes on the D line (one of the lowest pass rushing lines in the NFL) and secondary. To give him credit - when healthy, they have a solid Linebacking Corps.

I truly have no earthly idea what a GM in the NFL does anymore.

Hopefully this experiment is over and HC's go back to doing what they are paid to do - coach the players they are given by designing schemes around the strengths and talents of the team.

Aaaaannnnd Love gets sacked. My money is on OC Dirk Koetter to the promotion

[ateamstupid]

Meanwhile, Jeff Fisher's just gonna keep going 7-9 every year until the end of eternity with no job security issues. Mind-boggling.

[Rudeboyelvis]

http://www.joebucsfan.com/2016/01/du...ed-doom-lovie/

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Meanwhile, Jeff Fisher's just gonna keep going 7-9 every year until the end of eternity with no job security issues. Mind-boggling.

His job security there has more to do with the current nightmare the franchise is in the middle of, and less to do with his perennial failures.

The franchise is in complete flux. The owner wants out of the stadium and STL, LA prefers the Raiders. The NFL regulations would make it nearly impossible to move the team, and the lease with Edward Jones Dome precludes him from playing outside of it until it expires in 2025.

They've got a ton of problems, the least of which is the product they put on the field.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Meanwhile, Jeff Fisher's just gonna keep going 7-9 every year until the end of eternity with no job security issues. Mind-boggling.

hey, now...it was 7-8-1 last year.

ryan and the gm put on notice by buffalo. no playoffs next year, you're both gone.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by Danzig

hey, now...it was 7-8-1 last year.

ryan and the gm put on notice by buffalo. no playoffs next year, you're both gone.

Ridiculous. Taylor's first year as a starter without Lesean McCoy and Sammy Watkins for a majority of the season in a very difficult division, with a top loaded schedule:

4 games with the Pats and Jets (sweeping the Jets accounting for 2 of the 6 NYJ losses) and 4 additional games against playoff bound Texans, Chiefs, Redskins, Bengals.

Absolute and complete foolishness.