My 2015 Eclipse Ballot..

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Great choices Steve. The only one where I'd differ is flipping Honor Code and Liam's Map for Older Dirt Male.

The Met Mile and Whitney for HC trump the Woodward and BC Dirt Mile for LM by quite a bit, IMO.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

The Met Mile and Whitney for HC trump the Woodward and BC Dirt Mile for LM by quite a bit, IMO.

I get the prestige aspect, but Liam's Map was so much the best in the Whitney and finished the year stronger than Honor Code. That's why I'd give it to him.

[TheSpyder]

At the end of the day, one heck of a year of horse racing.

What a treat it was!

Thanks for posting Steve.

Spyder from SC

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I get the prestige aspect, but Liam's Map was so much the best in the Whitney and finished the year stronger than Honor Code. That's why I'd give it to him.

My first thought was liams map...but in looking over both, i would give to honor code.
Both won 2 gr 1s, but honor code also won the gr 2 gulfstream h'cap.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I get the prestige aspect, but Liam's Map was so much the best in the Whitney and finished the year stronger than Honor Code. That's why I'd give it to him.

So much the best...he lost to a horse that made up 15 lengths on him..He ran super, but HC wasnt a perfect trip suck up winner

[blackthroatedwind]

I can't be the only one disappointed Freddy doesn't have a vote. I mean, someone has to vote for Shug, and every horse he trains, every year. It seems only fair

[Storm Cadet]

I guess this isn't the Heisman vote where your not allowed to divulge your selections/votes eh???

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by freddymo

So much the best...he lost to a horse that made up 15 lengths on him..He ran super, but HC wasnt a perfect trip suck up winner

The reason there were 15 lengths to make up is that Liam's Map was running skull-busting fractions for all nine furlongs, while Honor Code only had to run for about 3/8 of a mile. Give him credit for being the only one to make a significant close, but LM was clearly much the best that day.

[MisterB]

Lady Shipmen never won a Graded stakes. Wavell Avenue won G2 and the G1 Championship. Isn't the Eclispe awards about champions not almost champions.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by MisterB

Lady Shipmen never won a Graded stakes. Wavell Avenue won G2 and the G1 Championship. Isn't the Eclispe awards about champions not almost champions.

Lady Shipman performed at a high level the entire year, finishing up with a superb performance against males. Wavell Avenue only got good late in the year and finished with a great pair of efforts. Lady Shipman won't win, but in this case I prefer to recognize the complete campaign in what was a muddled division. What she did in '15 was more impressive to me than the pure dirt sprinters. Also, winning a Breeders' Cup race isn't the end-all, be-all just because they've tried to bill them as 'World Championships'.