FORNATALE: DT's NHC Stars forge toward Vegas!

[HoosierInOhio]

12/8 updated, not much movement.

http://www.ntra.com/nhc/files/NHC%20...B%20120815.pdf

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

good luck dt crew.. 2 of the top 10 are ladies...and the guy that makes all the twinspires pool plays is in the 490s..lol im sitting pretty at 1190s.

[jms62]

How does this work? Do they only take from the top 150 that don't already have an entry or do they take those with an entry out of the equation and take the top 150 without after that. Hoping Billy hangs on....

[HoosierInOhio]

Originally Posted by jms62

How does this work? Do they only take from the top 150 that don't already have an entry or do they take those with an entry out of the equation and take the top 150 without after that. Hoping Billy hangs on....

Within the top 150, that haven't yet qualified. So maybe 30-40 of those in the top 150 haven't qualified?

Edit, just counted 37 in the top 150 with no star yet.

[3kings]

A question for those that have accumulated points in the top 300 or so. How many days/weekends have you played qualifiers? If it's not to personal, a ballpark estimate of money spent to get where you are.

[HoosierInOhio]

Originally Posted by 3kings

A question for those that have accumulated points in the top 300 or so. How many days/weekends have you played qualifiers? If it's not to personal, a ballpark estimate of money spent to get where you are.

LOL, it's a tale of two years for me. Last year I ended up I think around 190 (missed Qualifying by a few hundred points) and played 25-30 events maybe. Just burned money. I did qualify for some events via feeders (HT.com), but I also paid for a lot full price. Guessing last year I paid several thousand with nothing really in return.

This year I said screw that, its not worth it. I played the very first NHCQ one for $165, then I played some HT feeders and qualified for a couple. I know I played two feeders for the tourney that I qualified for the NHC in on HT.com ($34). I also got points in two of the four free tourneys, one I finished 8th so picked up a $hit ton of points. I also drove down to Surfside and got 5th (top 4 got paid), and that tourney was $300. I played one more HT tourney (full price) to try and pick up points to see if I could make a push for the top 20 ($155). So this year I've paid about $600-$700 bucks in tourney's where I got NHC points. Almost half being the surfside one, which I can win real money and you keep your ticket winnings since it's a real money tourney. Hell, I think I walked out with $300 just on other races I won on.

Last year was my first year doing tourneys and using HTR, so there were a couple learning curves I was fighting. This year, I felt more comfortable with both. I've played way more Cash tourneys this year and have done pretty well. I will probably take the same approach next year. Try to qualify with feeders only, or on free tourneys (NHC, PH, Del Mar, etc.). If by Oct. I still haven't qualified, I will see if I want to pursue it further or not.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by HoosierInOhio

LOL, it's a tale of two years for me. Last year I ended up I think around 190 (missed Qualifying by a few hundred points) and played 25-30 events maybe. Just burned money. I did qualify for some events via feeders (HT.com), but I also paid for a lot full price. Guessing last year I paid several thousand with nothing really in return.

This year I said screw that, its not worth it. I played the very first NHCQ one for $165, then I played some HT feeders and qualified for a couple. I know I played two feeders for the tourney that I qualified for the NHC in on HT.com ($34). I also got points in two of the four free tourneys, one I finished 8th so picked up a $hit ton of points. I also drove down to Surfside and got 5th (top 4 got paid), and that tourney was $300. I played one more HT tourney (full price) to try and pick up points to see if I could make a push for the top 20 ($155). So this year I've paid about $600-$700 bucks in tourney's where I got NHC points. Almost half being the surfside one, which I can win real money and you keep your ticket winnings since it's a real money tourney. Hell, I think I walked out with $300 just on other races I won on.

Last year was my first year doing tourneys and using HTR, so there were a couple learning curves I was fighting. This year, I felt more comfortable with both. I've played way more Cash tourneys this year and have done pretty well. I will probably take the same approach next year. Try to qualify with feeders only, or on free tourneys (NHC, PH, Del Mar, etc.). If by Oct. I still haven't qualified, I will see if I want to pursue it further or not.

Interesting and thank you for your detailed response.

[casp0555]

Originally Posted by jms62

How does this work? Do they only take from the top 150 that don't already have an entry or do they take those with an entry out of the equation and take the top 150 without after that. Hoping Billy hangs on....

Thanks Jim....I am debating whether to play 12/12 contest as I will be on the road early and without internet access until around 5:30 or 6. I'm at 143 now and 200 points from the bubble. I will be studying the plays tomorrow but most likely will wait until the 12/19 contest. Good luck to the rest!

[HoosierInOhio]

Originally Posted by casp0555

Thanks Jim....I am debating whether to play 12/12 contest as I will be on the road early and without internet access until around 5:30 or 6. I'm at 143 now and 200 points from the bubble. I will be studying the plays tomorrow but most likely will wait until the 12/19 contest. Good luck to the rest!

The 12/19 contest is cheaper, will have more entries, thus more chances for points. All you really need is a few points to lock it up...

[geauxjoe30]

Steve live program was great, post the scoreboard link please.
Thanks driving back to heaven from Texas to Louisiana

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by geauxjoe30

Steve live program was great, post the scoreboard link please. Thanks driving back to heaven from Texas to Louisiana

Joe..

THX.. Glad you enjoyed. 10 hours of coverage yet to come.

Leaderboard on front page at www.ntra.com. Nearly live scoring once mandatories start.

[knickslions2]

JMS making noise!

[pointman]

Originally Posted by knickslions2

JMS making noise!

After the 4th mandatory some DTer's I am seeing doing well.

Ed Peters (Fantini) in 30th

Nick Tammaro in 34th

Vic Stauffer in 47th

Paul Weizer in 49th

Jim Sebes in 54th

I hope I didn't miss anyone, but being in the top 50 at end of today huge as those are the ones that go on to tomorrow.

Rooting hard for Jim to get into that top 50! Good Luck guys!

[3kings]

Originally Posted by pointman

After the 4th mandatory some DTer's I am seeing doing well.

Ed Peters (Fantini) in 30th

Nick Tammaro in 34th

Vic Stauffer in 47th

Paul Weizer in 49th

Jim Sebes in 54th

I hope I didn't miss anyone, but being in the top 50 at end of today huge as those are the ones that go on to tomorrow.

Rooting hard for Jim to get into that top 50! Good Luck guys!

It's the top 10% this year 63 people advance.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by 3kings

It's the top 10% this year 63 people advance.

I was not aware of that, thanks. I hope that these guys had that 25-1 bomb at Gulfstream.

[Kasept]

1 DAVID GUTFREUND-2 237
2 RAY ARSENAULT-2 236.4
3 DAVID SULLIVAN-1 235
4 CHARLIE DAVIS-2 232.6
5 PHIL BONGIOVANNI-1 224.4
6 PAUL MATTIES-1 223.9
7 ROBERT ENGELHARD-1 219.7
8 DAN CAMORO-1 213.6
9 JOE PERRY-2 213
10 JEFF EINARDT-1 211.4
11T TERRY JERGE-1 210.2
11T ROGER CETTINA-2 210.2 (Horse Owner with Chuck)
13 KEITH CASTLEBURY-1 207
14 JOSH MONTES-1 206.8
15 STANLEY BAVLISH-1 206
16 JOE VIDA-1 204.7
17 JIM O'NAIL-1 201.9
18 ROBERT GILBERT-2 201.3
19 SEAN NOLAN-2 199.9
20 ZACHERY MCLEAOD-1 199.7
21 CHARLES DARNELL-1 198.6
22 JOE PERRY-1 198.3
23 ROBERT DIFUSCO-1 197
24 STEVEN DECASPERS-2 196.8
25T EUGENE SPRUCK-1 195.8
25T PETER DEYS-1 195.8
27 JOHN MEYER-1 194.9
28 FRANK MUSTARI-2 194.3
29 DYLAN MCINTOSH-1 193.8
30 DUKE MATTIES-2 192.9
31 MICHAEL GUADAGNO-1 190
32 PHIL LAM-2 189.4
33 PAT CRONIN-1 187
34 MARK RUDY-1 185.6
35 MARK STANTON-1 185.5
36 JOHN DOWNIE-1 185.4
37 BASIL DEVITO-1 184.8
38 ERNEST POWERS-1 183.7
39 BRIAN HERRITY-2 183.5
40 WILLIAM SHURMAN-2 183.4
41 MARK RICHARDS-1 182.7
42 MIKE ELSASS-1 182.3
43 MICHAEL FERROZZO-1 181
44 ED REIDY-2 180.8
45 GAYLORD GRUNDY-1 180
46 CHRISTOPHER SKOTZ-1 179.6
47 TANYA TAYLOR-2 179.4
48 KENNETH JORDAN-1 176.4
49 BOB WEIR-1 175.9
50 BLAKE JESSEE-1 175.8
51 MICHAEL MCKAY-1 175.6
52 RONALD GOLEMI-1 174.5
53 BRENDAN FAY-1 174.3
54 SCOTT BARSHACK-1 174.2
55T RICK BROTH-1 173.8
55T ERIC LANGE-2 173.8
57 MATTHEW ACHE-1 173.1
58 LEONARD PETERSON-1 172.9
59 PAUL WEIZER-1 172.8
60T ALBERT TIERNAN-1 171.7
60T WILLIAM ORTEGA-1 171.7
62 GARY WRIGHT-1 171.2
63 RANDY BAUER-1 170
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64 MICHELLE PODRATZ-1 169.8
65 JEFF ARTHUR-1 169.3
66 AMY BRANTLEY-1 167.7
67 CHARLES HOGAN-1 167.2
68 CHERYL MCINTYRE-2 166.8
69 JOE KOURY-1 166.6
70 VAUGHN BAIR-2 166.5
71T MIKE MARTIN-1 166.4
71T TIM HOLLAND-1 166.4
73 PETER PELTIER-1 166.2
74 BILL WILLIS-1 166
75 MARC RACENSTEIN-1 165.7
76 DON ALLEN-1 165.6
77 BILL RENDINO-1 165.2
78 STEPHEN MCNATTON-1 164.4
79 DAMIAN RONCEVICH-1 164.2
80T WILLIAM HOLMES-1 163.3
80T DEREK DEUTSCH-1 163.3
82 PHIL HOEDEBECK-1 161.2
83 DANA REISS-1 161.1
84 DAN SHUGAR-1 160.8
85 ERIC BOYD-1 160.6
86T JIM SEBES-1 159
86T LINDA RODRIGUEZ-2 159
88 GARETT SKIBA-1 158.2
89T GENE CAHALAN-1 158
89T EDWARD LAWLESS-1 158
91 WYATT ROSETTE-1 157.8
92T DANIEL EDWARDS-2 157.4
92T NUNZIO MANIACI -1 157.4
94 LINDA RODRIGUEZ-1 156.9
95 KEVIN WILLETT-1 155.4
96 MARK FELD-1 154.6
97 STEVE BRAGG-1 154.4
98 TONY BRICE-1 154.2
99 DEREK ISENBERG-1 153.8
100 JIM MEEKS-1 153.7