San Bernardino

[Heels1989]

Originally Posted by pointman

If it wasn't clear to the vast majority of people of how big of an idiot you really are, you left no doubt here.

Come on Nic. I think I know you well enough to know you are better than this. I have had the pleasure of meeting and spending time with Nicole at Pimlico a few years back. I can assure you, she is far from an idiot. You can disagree with her politics. That's fine. How about some civil, healthy debate. If I shared a similar opinion, hypothetical or not, would you call me an idiot? I would hope not.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Heels1989

Come on Nic. I think I know you well enough to know you are better than this. I have had the pleasure of meeting and spending time with Nicole at Pimlico a few years back. I can assure you, she is far from an idiot. You can disagree with her politics. That's fine. How about some civil, healthy debate. If I shared a similar opinion, hypothetical or not, would you call me an idiot? I would hope not.

[Danzig]

He is right on this, it is insane.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/obama-ren...ls-gun-control


The fact this failed is absolutely indefensible and is truly mind boggling.

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by Danzig

He is right on this, it is insane.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/obama-ren...ls-gun-control

No, it's deflection. 64% of Americans disapprove of Obama's handling of ISIS, and his (and Hillary's) foreign policy regarding Libya, Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan are abject failures, so he's falling back on his favorite boogieman.

Keeping those on the no-fly list from buying guns sounds right, doesn't it?
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/04/op...terrorism.html

But wait -- just a year ago
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/19/op...?_r=1&referer=

But hey, these might be dangerous folks, right? Including the 72 Department of Homeland Security employees who are on the list? Why haven't they been fired? Why haven't the hundreds of thousands on the list been arrested? Detained? Snap! Due process.

Who wasn't on the no-fly list? The San Bernardino shooters. The Fort Hood shooter. The Chattanooga shooter. The Boston bombers.

So once again our President proposes something which sounds like it might be effective, but wouldn't have prevented that with which he justifies it. No thanks, I am not in favor of the government denying second amendment rights based on a secret list that only they control.

[Danzig]

so you think that an event like this shouldn't be used to go after others not tied to the event? not used to make a blanket policy?

[OldDog]

See if this opinion piece helps to convey my thinking. I have a helluvalotta respect for the author.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...re-terrorists/

[jms62]

Originally Posted by OldDog

See if this opinion piece helps to convey my thinking. I have a helluvalotta respect for the author.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...re-terrorists/

I don't agree if it can save 1 life but I do see your point.. Complicated.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by Heels1989

Come on Nic. I think I know you well enough to know you are better than this. I have had the pleasure of meeting and spending time with Nicole at Pimlico a few years back. I can assure you, she is far from an idiot. You can disagree with her politics. That's fine. How about some civil, healthy debate. If I shared a similar opinion, hypothetical or not, would you call me an idiot? I would hope not.

Aww, how is it mid-January and I'm only now seeing this? Back at you, too; that was such a nice day at Pimlico and it was such a pleasure to meet you.

My stepmom has repeatedly asked me when we'll go back for another trip to the track there. I think to myself, "I live a 40 minute ride from Belmont and you want to go back to Pimlico?" but seeing as how her closest track is Penn National, I guess Pimlico is positively glamorous by comparison.