After Breeders Cup Break - No Contest next Sat . . . Comments, Ideas going forward

[Real Quiet]

As long as Plenilune is willing to score the points next year I will continue to score the ROI whether it be 8-10 or 15 players. It has made me a better handicapper even though I rarely win the points contest. And I like the people here. One thing I ask is that I be given a little more leeway in scoring the ROI. Too many times I have had to disqualify a player for a mistake which had no outcome on the contest. It bothers me to be so rigid on the rules when anyone can see the players intent. Cruzan got DQed this year along with a few others.and in the Breeders Cup there is a big DQ. Being over the limit is one thing. Making a wager that can't be deciphered with the naked eye is another. Betting races that aren't in the sequence is a dq. Forgetting a number should not be a DQ when you add the proper name. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

[JolyB]

Originally Posted by Real Quiet

As long as Plenilune is willing to score the points next year I will continue to score the ROI whether it be 8-10 or 15 players. It has made me a better handicapper even though I rarely win the points contest. And I like the people here. One thing I ask is that I be given a little more leeway in scoring the ROI. Too many times I have had to disqualify a player for a mistake which had no outcome on the contest. It bothers me to be so rigid on the rules when anyone can see the players intent. Cruzan got DQed this year along with a few others.and in the Breeders Cup there is a big DQ. Being over the limit is one thing. Making a wager that can't be deciphered with the naked eye is another. Betting races that aren't in the sequence is a dq. Forgetting a number should not be a DQ when you add the proper name. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

RQ, you make a very valid point. It is my guess that the ROI rules were originally written to protect the scorer from having to make any guess as to the player's intent. That may be too rigid, especially in a game among friends with only bragging rights on the line. I would be in favor of giving you as scorer the discretion of accepting a wager as valid as long as you can clearly interpret the intent, even if it is not artfully written. I would draw the analogy of you as mutual clerk - could you punch out a ticket based on the information presented to you? If so, you should be able to accept it.

That's my opinion - I'd be interested in how others react.

[DonGuido]

Originally Posted by JolyB

RQ, you make a very valid point. It is my guess that the ROI rules were originally written to protect the scorer from having to make any guess as to the player's intent. That may be too rigid, especially in a game among friends with only bragging rights on the line. I would be in favor of giving you as scorer the discretion of accepting a wager as valid as long as you can clearly interpret the intent, even if it is not artfully written. I would draw the analogy of you as mutual clerk - could you punch out a ticket based on the information presented to you? If so, you should be able to accept it.

That's my opinion - I'd be interested in how others react.

I'm OK with that. RQ, you may need to PM a few but if that helps you, I'm all for it.

[RUFFIAN]

(CAPS DUE TO VISION ISSUE: EASIER TO SEE ON IPAD= NOT SHOUTING)

IN MY OWN CONTESTS ON 2 OTHER FORUMS I HAVE ALWAYS HAD THE RULE
OF ===> NAME TRUMPS NUMBER IF POSTED WITH ORIGINAL ENTRY

HOWEVER, IT IS UP TO THAT PLAYER TO NOTIFY THE SCOREKEEPER OF
THE ERROR OF WRONG ## OR POST THE ERROR ON THE THREAD

IT IS NOT THE SCOREKEEPER'S RESPONSIBILITY TO CHECK EACH PLAYER
ENTRY TO SEE IF NAME MATCHES NUMBER

I TRY TO BE FLEXIBLE TO PROMOTE FUN AND NOT SO SERIOUS / RIGID
CONSIDERING NO REAL MONEY IS INVOLVED ~
JUST PRIZES I GIVE AT THE YEAR'S END FOR ALL DIVISIONS OF MY CONTESTS

I THINK THE ORIGINAL CREATION OF THE RULES HERE FROM LONG AGO
INTENDED THE ENTRY TO BE THE SAME AS AT AN ACTUAL TRACK

AT A TRACK THEY DON'T CARE IF YOU SAY THE WRONG NUMBER

IN A FUN CONTEST ON A FORUM WE DO CARE THAT THE PLAYER
GETS CREDIT FOR THE HORSE THEY REALLY WANTED --
NOT PENALIZED FOR A TYPO WHICH MOST OF US MAKE NOW AND THEN
OR IN MY CASE => A BLONDE MOMENT!

[Real Quiet]

OMG............I agree with Ruffian......is the world coming to an end?

[RUFFIAN]

RQ =====>
NO CATNIP FOR U BIG BOY!!!

[DonGuido]

On another subject that's equally important or even more so, Ruffian . . . how many of our players can you ask to come over here and try this contest? How many do you think would? Heck I'll even b the extra catnip for you to send'em over for a try.

I had to ask . . .

Thanks in advance for adding 5 or 6 players to our list.

BTW - I'm going to do all I can to convince LW to come back and see what going on with our more recent AWOL's.

Anyone else have chits you can call in with handicapping friends . . . go for it!!!