10/3 (BEL): JCGC, Champagne, Frizette, Flwr Bowl (G1's), Kelso, Hill Prince

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

And the JCGC isn't?

i can see why shugs doing what he's doing.
not a knock on the jcgc.
also, if he did poorly at 10f saturday, what would that prep him for on bc weeked?
the kelso is right up his alley, shouldn't take as much out of him, and gives him a great prep for going 10f in a few weeks.
that way, the only question is going 10f...not whether this wknd takes too much out of him.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i can see why shugs doing what he's doing.
not a knock on the jcgc.
also, if he did poorly at 10f saturday, what would that prep him for on bc weeked?
the kelso is right up his alley, shouldn't take as much out of him, and gives him a great prep for going 10f in a few weeks.
that way, the only question is going 10f...not whether this wknd takes too much out of him.

Considering he ran probably the best race of his life the last time he was cut back, I would say that it could prep him very well for the Dirt Mile if he is not effective at 1 1/4.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by pointman

Considering he ran probably the best race of his life the last time he was cut back, I would say that it could prep him very well for the Dirt Mile if he is not effective at 1 1/4.

but they aren't pointing him to the dirt mile.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Danzig

but they aren't pointing him to the dirt mile.

Which part of my post in answer to your suggestion that if he ran in the JCGC and did not handle a 1 1/4 that it would not prep him for anything on Breeder's Cup day suggests that I am not aware that they are pointing him to the Classic?

[cakes44]

I think it's great and he'll be primed for the Classic. Who was the last American horse to run 1 1/4 in his prep and run worth a darn in the Classic? Maybe I didn't think thoroughly and there's one or two I missed?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by cakes44

I think it's great and he'll be primed for the Classic. Who was the last American horse to run 1 1/4 in his prep and run worth a darn in the Classic? Maybe I didn't think thoroughly and there's one or two I missed?

Pretty difficult to have a long list considering how few 10-furlong dirt races are left on the calendar, but Curlin and Blame seemed to do OK in BC Classics after prepping in the JCGC. Bernardini too. No idea why prepping at the same distance of an upcoming big race would be a detriment. If anything, it should be beneficial, especially for a horse like Honor Code with no experience at the distance.

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Pretty difficult to have a long list considering how few 10-furlong dirt races are left on the calendar, but Curlin and Blame seemed to do OK in BC Classics after prepping in the JCGC. Bernardini too. No idea why prepping at the same distance of an upcoming big race would be a detriment. If anything, it should be an advantage, especially for a horse like Honor Code with no experience at the distance.

Yep, there you go then. Just seems like pussing these horses into the BC seems to work out more often than not nowadays. Not saying I'm a fan myself.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Pretty difficult to have a long list considering how few 10-furlong dirt races are left on the calendar, but Curlin and Blame seemed to do OK in BC Classics after prepping in the JCGC. Bernardini too. No idea why prepping at the same distance of an upcoming big race would be a detriment. If anything, it should be beneficial, especially for a horse like Honor Code with no experience at the distance.

Every horse isn't the same and lumping form cycles/race patterns isn't germane. What worked for Curlin, Blame, Bernardini, et al, isn't necessarily appropriate for Honor Code. If you listen to Shug talk about the how and why of the Kelso versus Gold Cup, he made it clear.. He thinks the one turn mile ahead of the 10f target will keep him 'sharp', while concerned a 10f prep had potential to 'dull' his edge ahead of the key goal.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by pointman

Which part of my post in answer to your suggestion that if he ran in the JCGC and did not handle a 1 1/4 that it would not prep him for anything on Breeder's Cup day suggests that I am not aware that they are pointing him to the Classic?

Because you wrote

I would say that it could prep him very well for the Dirt Mile