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Old 08-04-2015, 08:38 AM
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...and their vote counts as much as yours...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiZFXkmofgI
From Wikipedia, re: the guy interviewing: "Mark Shouldice, known professionally as Mark Dice,[1] is an American author and conspiracy theorist based in San Diego, California, who argues that the New World Order and secret societies, such as the Illuminati, Bilderberg Group, Skull and Bones and Bohemian Grove, direct human affairs and global politics, particularly those of the United States."

He also claims 9/11 was an inside job.

... and his vote counts as much as yours...
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From Wikipedia, re: the guy interviewing: "Mark Shouldice, known professionally as Mark Dice,[1] is an American author and conspiracy theorist based in San Diego, California, who argues that the New World Order and secret societies, such as the Illuminati, Bilderberg Group, Skull and Bones and Bohemian Grove, direct human affairs and global politics, particularly those of the United States."

He also claims 9/11 was an inside job.

... and his vote counts as much as yours...
I put no stock in him or what he promotes. This is about the people in the video.

Are you more concerned about him than about voters who would agree to the repeal of the Bill of Rights?
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Old 08-04-2015, 09:48 AM
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I love Joe.

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I put no stock in him or what he promotes. This is about the people in the video.

Are you more concerned about him than about voters who would agree to the repeal of the Bill of Rights?
Hasn't Patriot Act just about done that already?
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Hasn't Patriot Act just about done that already?
I laughed. And then I cried.
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And in more face palming news, here's a leading contender for Mother of the Year:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/m...-old-daughter/
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And in more face palming news, here's a leading contender for Mother of the Year:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/m...-old-daughter/
oh, i am so glad they found her!! i saw the story the other day about her snatching kidlet and running. dad was panicked, and with good reason.
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It's not about HRC. It's about the ignorance of the populace and how they're more interested in the person than the substance.

Good and hard, good and hard.
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It's not about HRC. It's about the ignorance of the populace and how they're more interested in the person than the substance.

Good and hard, good and hard.
And this is one case where one can honestly say, "Both sides do it." I remember trying to talk politics with my brother in 2012, who voted for Romney. I asked him which policies of Romney's he supported and he couldn't name a single one. Not one. It's just, hey, he's a Republican and so he's voting for the Republican, even if he has no idea what the guy actually supports. I don't know that a look into the GOP vs. the Dem platform would have made him rethink his vote, because I really have no idea what my brother's views on issues are. I'm not sure he actually has a point of view; he's much more interested in his golf game and fantasy football stats than politics. His wife's political views are right in line with the Dem platform, but she votes Republican every year, because that's what her dad votes. It probably doesn't matter; they live in a big city and so their votes aren't likely tipping any balances, but it's frustrating, because it's not sports, people! You don't stick by your team through thick and thin; you ask, "What have you done for me lately?"

Oddly, and I say that only because it goes against this stereotype, my very right-wing uncle will cross party lines and vote for the Dem sometimes, but usually just in local elections. Because he actually does try to be up on the local issues, anyway. Not often, but occasionally. I give him props for making the effort to cast informed votes, even if I disagree on issues with him.

Then again, he also thought Sarah Palin was "such a nice lady!" so, you know. It is what it is.

And don't try to say anything negative about the late Joe Paterno to him. The man could do no wrong, in his eyes.
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Hasn't Patriot Act just about done that already?


and there's nothing that can be done if some voters don't bother to get educated before going to the polls. they still have the right to vote if they so choose.
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I put no stock in him or what he promotes. This is about the people in the video.
But a lot of people obviously do, as he's got quite the YouTube following. And those folks all get the same you do, too. I'm less interested in a handful of people not knowing what the Bill of Rights is than I am a guy spouting off 9/11 was an inside job to thousands of eager listening fans.

But hey, I'm the sort of nerd who can name all 9 SC justices without googling, so I perhaps offer a little more slack to the average American's civic ignorance, because I'm so accustomed to it. Let's be honest; he could have sought out Ted Cruz supporters and gotten exactly the same video footage, except that all of the people on it would have been white men. It's not that Clinton supporters oppose the Bill of Rights; it's that people support candidates over policies. Because they seem to have confused politics with sports.

For example, here is Samantha Bee in 2008, talking to GOP conventioneers about Sarah and Bristol Palin.

http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/bf...palin-s-choice

And in 2012, talking about how they oppose abortion under all circumstances, but it's totally cool that the guy they want for President doesn't:

http://feministing.com/2012/09/04/sa...e-on-abortion/
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But a lot of people obviously do, as he's got quite the YouTube following. And those folks all get the same you do, too. I'm less interested in a handful of people not knowing what the Bill of Rights is than I am a guy spouting off 9/11 was an inside job to thousands of eager listening fans.

But hey, I'm the sort of nerd who can name all 9 SC justices without googling, so I perhaps offer a little more slack to the average American's civic ignorance, because I'm so accustomed to it. Let's be honest; he could have sought out Ted Cruz supporters and gotten exactly the same video footage, except that all of the people on it would have been white men. It's not that Clinton supporters oppose the Bill of Rights; it's that people support candidates over policies. Because they seem to have confused politics with sports.

For example, here is Samantha Bee in 2008, talking to GOP conventioneers about Sarah and Bristol Palin.

http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/bf...palin-s-choice

And in 2012, talking about how they oppose abortion under all circumstances, but it's totally cool that the guy they want for President doesn't:

http://feministing.com/2012/09/04/sa...e-on-abortion/


i was in charge of trivia questions for a local civic org. no one got this question right:
how many justices are women?
but then, i had someone come in my office and hand me paperwork with his name on it.
i said hey, i know that name. that guy was famous in mexico, wasn't he president?!?! lol he was impressed, by husband said i'm a nerd. can't argue with that.
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