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[Danzig]

Originally Posted by cmfhb411

When we see incidents like this I know the attacker never got the following:

Playing the role of victim, or using past events to build excuses guarantees you no progress, no healing, and no victory.


I find it important to remind myself that:

Angry words that point to blame may accurately identify the original source of a problem.
However, all too often blame and demonstrations of outrage ---->
leads to more intense hostility, greater division between others, and alienation.

May those we've lost rest in peace and their loved ones ultimately heal.

Also, let us ALL vividly remember how much we needed each other to deal with life's tragedies
before, during, and well beyond the inevitable discussion our proposed solutions.

I find its impossible to use rational thought to explain the irrational. Those poor people, my heart goes out to their families and friends.

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by Danzig

I find its impossible to use rational thought to explain the irrational.

I think that a lot of people feel exactly the same, which is why I find it odd that Pierce calls out people who refer to this incident as "unspeakable" or "unthinkable." Rational, good people find it difficult if not impossible to comprehend what this guy did, on several levels, and without foresight to consult a thesaurus before they speak from their hearts.

Pierce: "The country must resist the temptation present in anesthetic innocence. It must reject the false comfort of learned disbelief and the narcotic embrace of concocted surprise."

So we shouldn't be surprised. We're guilty of allowing this to happen. This display is after all, as Pierce says, "the dark heart of America."

Well okay then.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by OldDog

I think that a lot of people feel exactly the same, which is why I find it odd that Pierce calls out people who refer to this incident as "unspeakable" or "unthinkable." Rational, good people find it difficult if not impossible to comprehend what this guy did, on several levels, and without foresight to consult a thesaurus before they speak from their hearts.

Pierce: "The country must resist the temptation present in anesthetic innocence. It must reject the false comfort of learned disbelief and the narcotic embrace of concocted surprise."

So we shouldn't be surprised. We're guilty of allowing this to happen. This display is after all, as Pierce says, "the dark heart of America."

Well okay then.

well, one problem is that people don't want to talk about it. about guns, about violence, about how things are, about race, about any of it. some think nothing can be done-but i disagree about that.
why this particular person did what he did, i don't know.
so, no, it's not a surprise, he's right. what's surprising is that there's no will to change it.

it's like the guy in colorado. i read yesterday on another site that the guys therapist called his mother, because the therapist was concerned. but, mom said it's all ok. um, what?! an oncologist wouldn't tell you you don't need cancer treatment if mom said you were ok, why do we still refuse to deal with mental health in the way we need to? and parents never want to think that junior is off, they want it to be ok. so they pretend it's ok. we had a guy here a few years ago shoot a classmate. he was a nut, all the students knew it. teachers knew it. parents did nothing til he killed that kid. now, he's crazy, and now he's in the psych ward. little late isn't it?!

and where was he getting all this 'you're taking over our country, raping our women' bs?! who instilled that in him?

[dellinger63]

"At some point," he added, "we as a country will have to reckon with the fact that this type of mass violence does not happen in other developed countries."

Barak Obama

Um is France a developed country?

How about Norway where a gunman killed 85?

Germany, Russia, Finland, Spain, Australia and Italy, are they developed countries?

Guess ignorance is bliss for some.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Um is France a developed country?

How about Norway where a gunman killed 85?

Germany, Russia, Finland, Spain, Australia and Italy, are they developed countries?

Guess ignorance is bliss for some.

Like you apparently.

You're comparing gun violence here with the rest of the world and think it's on a par? OK.

[Kasept]

South Carolina's oh-so-special Sen. Lindsey Graham.. http://thinkprogress.org/justice/201...us-charleston/

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Kasept

South Carolina's oh-so-special Sen. Lindsey Graham.. http://thinkprogress.org/justice/201...us-charleston/

Oh, god. Lindsey graham. Jesus. That guy is indescribably idiotic.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Like you apparently.

You're comparing gun violence here with the rest of the world and think it's on a par? OK.

I don't think it's on par but am not so ignorant to state it doesn't happen in other developed countries.

[Pants II]

Reichstag Fire Decree, suspended the provisions of the German constitution that protected basic individual rights, including freedom of the press, freedom of speech, and freedom of assembly. The decree also permitted increased state and police intervention into private life, allowing officials to censor mail, listen in on phone conversations, and search private homes without a warrant or need to show reasonable cause. Under the state of emergency established by the decree, the Nazi regime could arrest and detain people without cause and without limits on the length of incarceration.

Taking advantage of a frightened public. Taking away their rights.

Easily being swayed by emotion. The easiest to manipulate and control.

Very little difference.

History often repeats.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I don't think it's on par but am not so ignorant to state it doesn't happen in other developed countries.

I'm not looking to debate what the President said.. The bigger issue that I'm reacting to is how as a country there hasn't been any coherent attempt to figure out how to practically address a problem that goes on and on and on. That's all.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

I don't think it's on par but am not so ignorant to state it doesn't happen in other developed countries.

Turns out the President and I were both wrong. Norway is the mass shooting capital of the world by far when population is considered. Then there's the fact the four countries ranked above the U.S. all have restrictive gun laws. Feelings over facts rule again.

http://www.ijreview.com/2015/06/3481...es-him-wrong/?

[Pants II]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Like you apparently.

You're comparing gun violence here with the rest of the world and think it's on a par? OK.

Because it's comparable especially considering your boyfriend Obummer just said it doesn't happen anywhere civilized. (not exact quote, semantics tards).

He basically said the French don't exist. Charlie Hebdo didn't happen.

He insults the intelligence of non-ret.arded, agenda-driven 'Americans' who are ignorant enough to believe a simple executive order banning guns will actually end these events.

The only way you'll have a chance at success is door to door confiscation.

No different than the Nazis.

The hypocrisy is astounding. The naive idiotic mantras you anti-American scum spout when an emotional event happens...TYPICAL.

Ban me. You're a shill.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

it's like the guy in colorado. i read yesterday on another site that the guys therapist called his mother, because the therapist was concerned. but, mom said it's all ok. um, what?!

A not so reliant news source is reporting the racist murderer was on psych drugs. What father buys his psychotic kid a .45 for his 21st birthday? If this turns out to be true the father needs to go away as an accessory to nine counts of murder and several counts of accessory to attempted murder while Jr. gets the death penalty.