Be Bullish/Mike Repole

[Jay Frederick]

Out of all of the horses out there running who shouldn't be....I don't get the rush and push to retire a horse who seems pretty happy right now.

[DonGuido]

Originally Posted by Jay Frederick

Out of all of the horses out there running who shouldn't be....I don't get the rush and push to retire a horse who seems pretty happy right now.

Because unless he's a gelding, the real money is in the breeding!!! If he's a gelding, WTF, but I'm sure the eminent Repole has his Italian egomaniacal reasons.

[NTamm1215]

We definitely need people retiring healthy horses in this day and age. Considering our field sizes are so great and all.

[Sightseek]

So happy this was done!

The goal should be to retire a horse before they run their very last race and are still usable in other ways. Granted, Be Bullish will be at Old Friends, but there are many horses out there that should be retired, re-schooled and given a new job. Don't run every last bit of soundness (or worse, life) out of them.

[Jay Frederick]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

So happy this was done!

The goal should be to retire a horse before they run their very last race and are still usable in other ways. Granted, Be Bullish will be at Old Friends, but there are many horses out there that should be retired, re-schooled and given a new job. Don't run every last bit of soundness (or worse, life) out of them.

Don't think anyone is suggesting running every last bit of soundness out of them. There has to be a middle ground there somewhere.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by Jay Frederick

Don't think anyone is suggesting running every last bit of soundness out of them. There has to be a middle ground there somewhere.

Respectfully, in this instance, I think this is the middle ground.

Great post, Sightie... always nice when someone is able to convey the thoughts that I think a few of us here share.

I'm sorry to bring up something so sad and about an older warrior we all loved (or who at least was a fan and forum favorite), but maybe this is part of it...

I do not know Mr. Repole at all and am not trying to be presumptuous or attempt to psychoanalyze him but maybe this is relative (?):

Repole said he had considered retiring Caixa Eletronica at the end of both his 7- and 8-year-old seasons, but the horse was sound and seemed to enjoy running and training so much that he kept him going. Repole said he turned down offers from farms in Indiana, Oklahoma, and overseas to stand the horse as a stallion. Repole said his plan was to retire the horse to Old Friends in Saratoga.

“Growing up in Queens these are the horses that I fell in love with, not the Saturday horses, but the Wednesday and Thursday horses,” Repole said. “Caixa was that type of horse that turned into a special horse.”


http://www.drf.com/news/belmont-park...ining-accident

So that's why I think this is a win win and that this just might be the middle ground. If nothing else why not be a little more careful with an older horse...

Glad for all involved. Always nice to see a happy ending.

[Jay Frederick]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Respectfully, in this instance, I think this is the middle ground.

Great post, Sightie... always nice when someone is able to convey the thoughts that I think a few of us here share.

I'm sorry to bring up something so sad and about an older warrior we all loved (or who at least was a fan and forum favorite), but maybe this is part of it...

I do not know Mr. Repole at all and am not trying to be presumptuous or attempt to psychoanalyze him but maybe this is relative (?):

Repole said he had considered retiring Caixa Eletronica at the end of both his 7- and 8-year-old seasons, but the horse was sound and seemed to enjoy running and training so much that he kept him going. Repole said he turned down offers from farms in Indiana, Oklahoma, and overseas to stand the horse as a stallion. Repole said his plan was to retire the horse to Old Friends in Saratoga.

“Growing up in Queens these are the horses that I fell in love with, not the Saturday horses, but the Wednesday and Thursday horses,” Repole said. “Caixa was that type of horse that turned into a special horse.”


http://www.drf.com/news/belmont-park...ining-accident

So that's why I think this is a win win and that this just might be the middle ground. If nothing else why not be a little more careful with an older horse...

Glad for all involved. Always nice to see a happy ending.

Maybe it is the middle ground, I don't know. What I do know is what happened to Caixa Eletronica (a personal favorite of mine) could have just as easily happened to a 2 year old. Age had nothing to do with his accident. If we need to be more careful as they get older than maybe they shouldn't be running at all.

I am very happy to see Be Bullish go out a winner. I just think there is more to meets the eye here and that some of the people involved should look at how they run their own stables instead of trying to meddle in others.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by Jay Frederick

Don't think anyone is suggesting running every last bit of soundness out of them.

But isn't that the history of the trainer for his last race? His post-race quotes show how much he doesn't get it.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

I've always wondered which side of my family had been responsible for my egomanical reasoning... Coulda swore it was the Irish

The more you know...

[Jay Frederick]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

But isn't that the history of the trainer for his last race? His post-race quotes show how much he doesn't get it.

For the most part yes. He and a lot of other trainers squeeze what they can and discard. I'm not defending Jacobson's history, because there is no defending it.

But let's remember how the events unfolded here. Repole claimed him a few months back to retire him. Made sure the media knew about how nice it was he was going to retire him. Then proceeded to not retire him and run him where he could claimed....which he was.

They tried to embarrass Jacobson once already. He should comply with them after that? Just being honest here, not sure I would have either.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

We definitely need people retiring healthy horses in this day and age. Considering our field sizes are so great and all.

Not feeling your injuries is not necessarily healthy. All situations arent black or white. I agree healthy horses that slow down shouldnt be retired just because they lose a step. I have trouble believing he was a healthy horse and not a product of a healthy batch of whatever and lots a back class. He was recently on vet list and while this is anecdotal evidence of health or lack there of its has to be considered in light of the trainer and his lack of reputation.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by DonGuido

Because unless he's a gelding, the real money is in the breeding!!! If he's a gelding, WTF, but I'm sure the eminent Repole has his Italian egomaniacal reasons.

Wow.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Wow.

Oh gee I just noticed your tagline.

~ just another wop

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

Oh gee I just noticed your tagline.

~ just another wop

I've always wondered which side of my family had been responsible for my egomanical reasoning... Coulda swore it was the Irish

[Rudeboyelvis]

As a personal affront to Don Guido, I will be celebrating the greatest American Architect of the 20th century - one Mr. Frank Lloyd Wright, with rotating Avys of his finest works each week.

This week, Fallingwater.

http://www.fallingwater.org

I have been fortunate enough to take in the masterpiece in person. It's literally built in a real waterfall.

>>Time cited it after its completion as Wright's "most beautiful job";[5] it is listed among Smithsonian's Life List of 28 places "to visit before you die."[6] It was designated a National Historic Landmark in 1966.[3] In 1991, members of the American Institute of Architects named the house the "best all-time work of American architecture" and in 2007, it was ranked twenty-ninth on the list of America's Favorite Architecture according to the AIA.<<

[DonGuido]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

As a personal affront to Don Guido, I will be celebrating the greatest American Architect of the 20th century - one Mr. Frank Lloyd Wright, with rotating Avys of his finest works each week.

This week, Fallingwater.

http://www.fallingwater.org

I have been fortunate enough to take in the masterpiece in person. It's literally built in a real waterfall.

>>Time cited it after its completion as Wright's "most beautiful job";[5] it is listed among Smithsonian's Life List of 28 places "to visit before you die."[6] It was designated a National Historic Landmark in 1966.[3] In 1991, members of the American Institute of Architects named the house the "best all-time work of American architecture" and in 2007, it was ranked twenty-ninth on the list of America's Favorite Architecture according to the AIA.<<

I do like his designs . . . just not the way he handled himself as an Architect and please do avatar them . . . I'll try not criticize each one. When I was a young fledgling student of Architecture I studied him well . . . then as I gained real experience and knowledge as a design Architect myself, I grew to cast him aside as any Architect not to emulate.

[DonGuido]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

I've always wondered which side of my family had been responsible for my egomanical reasoning... Coulda swore it was the Irish

Falling Water - Beautiful, creative but no family could live there and leaked like a sieve. It's supposed to be a house but nobody could live in it. Cardinal sin for an architect. Enough about FLW and I'm Irish and an Architect but not egomaniacal . . . much?!

[knickslions2]

Originally Posted by DonGuido

Falling Water - Beautiful, creative but no family could live there and leaked like a sieve. It's supposed to be a house but nobody could live in it. Cardinal sin for an architect. Enough about FLW and I'm Irish and an Architect but not egomaniacal . . . much?!

No true Irishman would have a handle DonGuido

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by DonGuido

Because unless he's a gelding, the real money is in the breeding!!! If he's a gelding, WTF, but I'm sure the eminent Repole has his Italian egomaniacal reasons.