2015: American Pharoah becomes 12th Triple Crown winner

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by 3kings

Lol. Let me screw up the race to make me relevant again.

DWL will always be relevant, haters will hate but this guy is perhaps the greatest trainer ever, certainly in the mix. When he was winning everything in sight, folks criticized him for running his horses too often (the same folks who cried about the frail nature of the thoroughbred and the conservative nature of most trainers), now days when he has been eclipsed win-wise by younger trainers (many who learned their craft under him) folks question him relentlessly for entering "hopeless longshots" while complaining about short fields in stake races...haters gonna hate! I will not be at all surprised if Mr Z ends up in the winners circle Saturday but even if he runs dead last, my respect for the great DWL will be maintained!

[-BT-]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

DWL will always be relevant, haters will hate but this guy is perhaps the greatest trainer ever, certainly in the mix. When he was winning everything in sight, folks criticized him for running his horses too often (the same folks who cried about the frail nature of the thoroughbred and the conservative nature of most trainers), now days when he has been eclipsed win-wise by younger trainers (many who learned their craft under him) folks question him relentlessly for entering "hopeless longshots" while complaining about short fields in stake races...haters gonna hate! I will not be at all surprised if Mr Z ends up in the winners circle Saturday but even if he runs dead last, my respect for the great DWL will be maintained!

like him or not, HOF or not, if he indeed entered this horse with this mentality, then its poor judgement, and i feel sorry for those who wager on him.

sticking around making comments like this, overruling an owner to the point of having the horse sold to prove that you know you're probably not good enough but your entry could compromise others is a flawed mentality and he's become more like Gennadi Dorochenko with his horse entry/placement

-bt-

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

DWL will always be relevant, haters will hate but this guy is perhaps the greatest trainer ever, certainly in the mix. When he was winning everything in sight, folks criticized him for running his horses too often (the same folks who cried about the frail nature of the thoroughbred and the conservative nature of most trainers), now days when he has been eclipsed win-wise by younger trainers (many who learned their craft under him) folks question him relentlessly for entering "hopeless longshots" while complaining about short fields in stake races...haters gonna hate! I will not be at all surprised if Mr Z ends up in the winners circle Saturday but even if he runs dead last, my respect for the great DWL will be maintained!

Are you kidding? Haters gonna hate? How can you possibly defend what he said?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Are you kidding? Haters gonna hate? How can you possibly defend what he said?

Well...you cant

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

DWL will always be relevant, haters will hate but this guy is perhaps the greatest trainer ever, certainly in the mix. When he was breaking down and killing everything in sight, folks criticized him for running his horses too often (the same folks who cried about the frail nature of the thoroughbred and the conservative nature of most trainers), now days when he has been eclipsed win-wise by younger trainers (many who learned their craft under him) folks question him relentlessly for entering "hopeless longshots" while complaining about short fields in stake races...haters gonna hate! I will not be at all surprised if Mr Z ends up in the winners circle Saturday but even if he runs dead last, my respect for the great butcher will be maintained!

FTFY.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

DWL will always be relevant, haters will hate but this guy is perhaps the greatest trainer ever, certainly in the mix. When he was winning everything in sight, folks criticized him for running his horses too often (the same folks who cried about the frail nature of the thoroughbred and the conservative nature of most trainers), now days when he has been eclipsed win-wise by younger trainers (many who learned their craft under him) folks question him relentlessly for entering "hopeless longshots" while complaining about short fields in stake races...haters gonna hate! I will not be at all surprised if Mr Z ends up in the winners circle Saturday but even if he runs dead last, my respect for the great DWL will be maintained!

It may not be popular, but I'm with you on DWL.

[King Glorious]

I'm a huge Lukas apologist but his statement with his reason for entering is ridiculous.

[geeker2]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

It may not be popular, but I'm with you on DWL.

I'm with Sighty !


she might hurt me if not

[Danzig]

I can't speak for anyone else, but taking issue with dwls motives for entering Mr. Z is certainly not to be considered an indictment of his entire career. Everyone knows lukases record overall.

[Indian Charlie]

In the eighties, Lukas was the grim reaper of horse flesh.

He was the horse holocaust.

I remember one time he entered a filly that was off from and I was told by a friend that the barn expected her to breakdown. She did, and died.

Anyone that defends him defends him from a position of ignorance.

He's a disgusting piece of shid.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

In the eighties, Lukas was the grim reaper of horse flesh.

He was the horse holocaust.

I remember one time he entered a filly that was off from and I was told by a friend that the barn expected her to breakdown. She did, and died.

Anyone that defends him defends him from a position of ignorance.

He's a disgusting piece of shid.

Guess I'm just ignorant, I've heard all the horror stories, must be true cause they appear frequently on the net based on whispers from the backstretch, guess it takes an intellect greater than mine to realize the gossip of losers is the source of truth.

[Kitan]

Calumet makes a profit...30k to enter, 45k purse in return...

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Guess I'm just ignorant, I've heard all the horror stories, must be true cause they appear frequently on the net based on whispers from the backstretch, guess it takes an intellect greater than mine to realize the gossip of losers is the source of truth.

If it makes it easier for you to rationalize your belief by dismissing facts, you truly are beyond hopeless.

Whispers from the backstretch? Hardly. I knew the person extremely well and found him to be pretty reliable when he passed on info like that.

If you actually took ten minutes to research all the horses he butchered in the 80's and into the 90's, maybe you'd form an opinion based on reality, instead of fantasy.

Nobody even came close to his levels of attrition.

Gossip of losers? Man, you are clearly the biggest idiot on this board.

How the heck is it gossip when he tells me before the race that the horse is expected to break down, the horse then breaks down, and is euthanized?

In what sort of vampire fantasy reality do you live in?

I really can't stand people like you.

Go stick your head back into a hole in the ground.