American Pharoah...

[freddymo]

Biggest cinch since Big Brown. Wins in a walk over. Horrible win bet at les then 4/1 regardless. I think he is a lot better then these and I agree based on solely his races in afternoon he should be second choice in waging at between 5 and 7/1.

Will try and get him on top with Upstart, Frosted, Danzig Moon, international Star inderneath in tri's supers.

AP will face 8 or less in Preakness and 7 or less in Belmont. Assuming he is healthy he wins TC.

[Dunbar]

I think he will be overbet and will not be using him. That said, like Dellinger I hope Am Pharoah and/or Dortmund end up on the rail.

--Dunbar

[jwkniska]

Originally Posted by Dunbar

I think he will be overbet and will not be using him. That said, like Dellinger I hope Am Pharoah and/or Dortmund end up on the rail.

--Dunbar

I agree 100%

[NTamm1215]

Not using him on top. I'm going to let him run a race in the afternoon that matches the accolades he seems to earn in the morning before I drink the Kool-Aid.

[Thunder Gulch]

Betting against, but not because I think he can't be a star

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Not using him on top. I'm going to let him run a race in the afternoon that matches the accolades he seems to earn in the morning before I drink the Kool-Aid.

There will be millions of dollars bet on horses because people like their name or color or 14 is their lucky number, that will counter balance the hype substantially. Remember on paper he is at least the 2nd most likely winner and has such pitching him to win is a dubious prop. Is he not an "A" on every smart handicappers vertical wager? Would you ever want to lose a pick 3/4/6 because you pitched AP because of hype and deflated odds?

I wouldnt bet him to win either regardless if I think he wins by 6

[DaTruth]

Going against. I just don't see how sitting off a hopeless longshot early in the Arkansas Derby means the "can he rate?" box gets a check mark. Let's see what happens when he rates behind Dortmund and engages him on the far turn.

[SundayStar]

if you're leaving him off, all i can say is good luck.

[ADJMK]

Originally Posted by DaTruth

Going against. I just don't see how sitting off a hopeless longshot early in the Arkansas Derby means the "can he rate?" box gets a check mark. Let's see what happens when he rates behind Dortmund and engages him on the far turn.

Sitting in the clear off a 45.4 half doesn't get a check mark from me either.Sure he relaxed. Didn't expect him to be running off into those fractions.

[ADJMK]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Not using him on top. I'm going to let him run a race in the afternoon that matches the accolades he seems to earn in the morning before I drink the Kool-Aid.

My thoughts exactly. I am ordering a Frosted shake.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Not using him on top. I'm going to let him run a race in the afternoon that matches the accolades he seems to earn in the morning before I drink the Kool-Aid.

I agree with you, Nick. I also think that Dortmund deserves to be favored over AP.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Biggest cinch since Big Brown. Wins in a walk over. Horrible win bet at les then 4/1 regardless. I think he is a lot better then these and I agree based on solely his races in afternoon he should be second choice in waging at between 5 and 7/1.

Will try and get him on top with Upstart, Frosted, Danzig Moon, international Star inderneath in tri's supers.

AP will face 8 or less in Preakness and 7 or less in Belmont. Assuming he is healthy he wins TC.

This.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Biggest cinch since Big Brown. Wins in a walk over. Horrible win bet at les then 4/1 regardless. I think he is a lot better then these and I agree based on solely his races in afternoon he should be second choice in waging at between 5 and 7/1.

Will try and get him on top with Upstart, Frosted, Danzig Moon, international Star inderneath in tri's supers.

AP will face 8 or less in Preakness and 7 or less in Belmont. Assuming he is healthy he wins TC.

Privman reports field will be small for Preakness

wait till you see the Belmont Field when AP wins well in Preakness maybe 7

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Privman reports field will be small for Preakness

wait till you see the Belmont Field when AP wins well in Preakness maybe 7

I'm a BIG fan of AP, but I think he has his work cut out for him on Saturday.

I would love for him to win convincingly, and head to Elmont with the hype train in full motion.

I'm just skeptical.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

I'm a BIG fan of AP, but I think he has his work cut out for him on Saturday.

I would love for him to win convincingly, and head to Elmont with the hype train in full motion.

I'm just skeptical.

Relax he is a cinch

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Relax he is a cinch

no one is a cinch.

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Relax he is a cinch

Things just got a 'tad' easier for him in the Preakness with Pletcher opting not to send Materiality.

[casp0555]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

Things just got a 'tad' easier for him in the Preakness with Pletcher opting not to send Materiality.

cowards

[Indian Charlie]

It seems like everytime I've opened a thread about the Preakness, Pletcher has changed his mind again about something.