Kellyn Gorder - buh bye for 14 months

[Danzig]

i don't know how it got in there....

classic

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i don't know how it got in there....

classic

BTW He didn't say that anywhere in the article cited.

[-BT-]

makes sense, i thought with his name, he was a women
also, makes sense, b/c i thought he/she was a "live" trainer......and now i know the answer to both

-bt-

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by -BT-

makes sense, i thought with his name, he was a women
also, makes sense, b/c i thought he/she was a "live" trainer......and now i know the answer to both

-bt-

Didn't have quite the same success at Tampa and GP this meet as in years past either - in fact, was virtually invisible... coincidence?

Win% by year:

2012 - 26.7%
2013 - 18%
2014 - 19%
2015 - 11%

[-BT-]

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis

Didn't have quite the same success at Tampa and GP this meet as in years past either - in fact, was virtually invisible... coincidence?

Win% by year:

2012 - 26.7%
2013 - 18%
2014 - 19%
2015 - 11%

Yup, if i remember correctly, he use to be decent with younger horses down in TB, that's where i picked him up at. i think he's had a few at Keeneland so far this meet.... check that 15 starters 1-5-1, still good for hitting the board.

http://www.equibase.com/profiles/Res...e=T&eID=218910

-bt-

[pointman]

It is amazing how many "innocent" guys claim that "it must be contamination!"

Contamination is suddenly becoming a serious issue.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by pointman

It is amazing how many "innocent" guys claim that "it must be contamination!"

Contamination is suddenly becoming a serious issue.

20 picograms.

20 ten trillions of a gram.

20/10,000,000,000,000.

You're an attorney. You'd have a field day with this. It's so obviously a residue contamination that it would be laughable if it didn't involve someone's career and reputation.

[Kasept]

It's sad that anyone here would immediately presume the worst of a person like Kellyn Gorder, not to mention gleefully celebrate him having to deal with this kind of problem. He's had one clenbuterol overage from 1700+ starters in 10+ years, but behind the scenes has been using Class 1 drugs that readily test at any lab? Right.. That makes perfect sense.

His reputation as a horseman among his peers -- and employers like ultimate straight arrow owner Bill Casner -- is impeccable. But believe whatever you want. If they're going to make 'examples' of someone like Kellyn Gorder without practical common sense, there's no reason for any trainer to stay in the sport.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Kasept

It's sad that anyone here would immediately presume the worst of a person like Kellyn Gorder, not to mention gleefully celebrate him having to deal with this kind of problem. He's had one clenbuterol overage from 1700+ starters in 10+ years, but behind the scenes has been using Class 1 drugs that readily test at any lab? Right.. That makes perfect sense.

His reputation as a horseman among his peers -- and employers like ultimate straight arrow owner Bill Casner -- is impeccable. But believe whatever you want. If they're going to make 'examples' of someone like Kellyn Gorder without practical common sense, there's no reason for any trainer to stay in the sport.

Very bizarre compulsion here to pile on a guy who has never shown any signs of being a juicer, but obviously the only explanation for his average to slightly above average success rate over the years has been all the meth he pumps his horses with.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Kasept

It's sad that anyone here would immediately presume the worst of a person like Kellyn Gorder, not to mention gleefully celebrate him having to deal with this kind of problem. He's had one clenbuterol overage from 1700+ starters in 10+ years, but behind the scenes has been using Class 1 drugs that readily test at any lab? Right.. That makes perfect sense.

His reputation as a horseman among his peers -- and employers like ultimate straight arrow owner Bill Casner -- is impeccable. But believe whatever you want. If they're going to make 'examples' of someone like Kellyn Gorder without practical common sense, there's no reason for any trainer to stay in the sport.

I think its funny that your upset that people have cynical feelings regarding this situation, feelings that have been developed not on this singular instance but over tons of cases and long periods of time for those that follow racing.

The reaction has nothing to do with Gorder and everything to do with the sport.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Wonder why?!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by -BT-

makes sense, i thought with his name, he was a women
also, makes sense, b/c i thought he/she was a "live" trainer......and now i know the answer to both

-bt-

what?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Danzig

what?

You're a women, you wouldn't understand.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

You're a women, you wouldn't understand.