Lets put a group together and bid....

Originally Posted by oracle80

Give me a break will you? They sold Hollywood!!!!!!!! What are the numbers without selling Hollywood? Its a loss without that.

Maybe once they own NY racing they can sell aqueduct and race at Belmont on the poly all year long.

I mean only an idiot would accept a puff piece from teh company itslef and try to pass it off as proof that they are a-ok.
Wanna know what really happened? They bought a bad business(Hollywood) bled out a lot of red ink, then dumped it. gee, thats a great plan huh? What a hit, you sell a bad property that bled red ink. Then try to represent it as a banner year with flowers blooming and sunshine shining.

Originally Posted by oracle80

I mean only an idiot would accept a puff piece from teh company itslef and try to pass it off as proof that they are a-ok.
Wanna know what really happened? They bought a bad business(Hollywood) bled out a lot of red ink, then dumped it. gee, thats a great plan huh? What a hit, you sell a bad property that bled red ink. Then try to represent it as a banner year with flowers blooming and sunshine shining.

Somebody is going to sell aqueduct and make Belmont a track for the winter/spring/fall. Just a question of who sells it.

[Exceller]

Originally Posted by boldruler

Somebody is going to sell aqueduct and make Belmont a track for the winter/spring/fall. Just a question of who sells it.

What is the point of Aqueduct considering it is all the same people? How about starting Saratoga on July4 and running through Labor day and just stay at Belmont the rest of the year.

[sumitas]

I haven't a clue. I would think they need the stalls at both tracks, regardless whether Belmont or Aqueduct is having their meet.

[Gander]

6 weeks is plenty long enough. I liked it better at 4. Running for an additional 2 or 3 weeks would kill the tradition. Please, no more than 6 weeks here.

[sumitas]

hmmm, interesting how everyone is brainstorming about the nyra tracks.

but you can't just sell aqueduct without providing at least an equal number of additional stalls at belmont. and horses work out at both tracks during the whole year. where are they gonna work out if they sell aqueduct ?

i don't see aqueduct being sold.

[Suffolk Shippers]

Originally Posted by boldruler

Somebody is going to sell aqueduct and make Belmont a track for the winter/spring/fall. Just a question of who sells it.

Bold, I dont doubt this, but I am wondering where you found this information out? I think it would be a good idea, just wasnt aware it was something that was likely to happen.

[sumitas]

it should be very interesting what the groups propose. it's pretty wide open. shortly we will find out who all will bid. they have to submit an intent to bid soon, according to the bloodhorse article that i linked to above.

can you imagine ferris wheels and water slides into the lake in the infield at Saratoga. God have mercy. it would resemble santa anita. yuk.

Oracle--do you know how much money they made by buying and selling Hollywood Park. They bought low and sold high. That is good business. Besides the sell off of Hollywood basically off-sets the construction of Churchill. Oracle, you know horses but you dont know business.

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Oracle--do you know how much money they made by buying and selling Hollywood Park. They bought low and sold high. That is good business. Besides the sell off of Hollywood basically off-sets the construction of Churchill. Oracle, you know horses but you dont know business.

Oh would you care to enlighten us about what the sale price was compared to the sell price and how much red ink was spilled there in between?
As far as the reconstruction goes I get it just fine, its overkill. I mean they are open what 3-4 months a year? And two days a year they have a large crowd. You actually think that those expenditures were necessary to that level? WHose gonna use those facilities the other 363 days a year? And do you honestly think that the cost of that refurbishment is going to be justified when its over with higher revenue form on track patrons? I get business just fine, the kind where the truth is told and not the spin.

Originally Posted by oracle80

Oh would you care to enlighten us about what the sale price was compared to the sell price and how much red ink was spilled there in between?
As far as the reconstruction goes I get it just fine, its overkill. I mean they are open what 3-4 months a year? And two days a year they have a large crowd. You actually think that those expenditures were necessary to that level? WHose gonna use those facilities the other 363 days a year? And do you honestly think that the cost of that refurbishment is going to be justified when its over with higher revenue form on track patrons? I get business just fine, the kind where the truth is told and not the spin.

Actually Churchill uses those facilities almost all year. That is now their main simulcasting location, they hold weddings, conventions etc etc in the new facilities. The smart thing was they made it multi-purpose. Which is smart in this day and age. When I get home I will get my shareowners report from the quarter where they sold Hollywood. I will post the number tonight or tomorrow when I am at work.