Derby Favorite

[pucknut]

CD played the schedule did nothing wrong
are we using this weeks beyers as a barometerif so does anyone really think frosted is better?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by pucknut

CD played the schedule did nothing wrong
are we using this weeks beyers as a barometerif so does anyone really think frosted is better?

Sure do. Frosted not only ran faster than Carpe Diem, he did so with a much more taxing trip. There is no easier trip in dirt racing than stalking cheap speed in the two-path with no one challenging you from the outside. Saying CD "did nothing wrong" is basically giving him points for not tripping over himself and losing an unlosable race. He's a nice enough horse, but the likelihood of him improving a half-dozen or so lengths while encountering the toughest trip of his life is very slim.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by pucknut

CD played the schedule did nothing wrong
are we using this weeks beyers as a barometerif so does anyone really think frosted is better?

I don't use those figs at all when figuring out who I like.

Flat out Frosted was more impressive than CD.

[pucknut]

keeneland is a brand new track
what formed the baseline for the figures?
CD picked his route to the derby won both races easily
the derby will be the third start off the layoff
we know he loves keeneland ky lets see ie he loves louisville ky too
we know racing on different surfaces and traveling to different tracks is no issue
gotta love horse racing different opinions abound and we get to settle our differences at the window
losers shred ticket like confetti
winners smile and wallets fatten

[blackthroatedwind]

The mad love for Carpe Diem is pretty puzzling, except that it's hard to find an actually responsible positive opinion of his chances in the KY Derby. The best idea is some version of " he looks like a really good horse to me " which I guess makes sense since he has never done anything to suggest he is a serious player in this Derby, and plenty to suggest otherwise.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

The mad love for Carpe Diem is pretty puzzling, except that it's hard to find an actually responsible positive opinion of his chances in the KY Derby. The best idea is some version of " he looks like a really good horse to me " which I guess makes sense since he has never done anything to suggest he is a serious player in this Derby, and plenty to suggest otherwise.

Yeah, and where is there any potential upside to this colt? Turf??

I just don't get it.

[pucknut]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

The mad love for Carpe Diem is pretty puzzling, except that it's hard to find an actually responsible positive opinion of his chances in the KY Derby. The best idea is some version of " he looks like a really good horse to me " which I guess makes sense since he has never done anything to suggest he is a serious player in this Derby, and plenty to suggest otherwise.

how about CD is regally bred
his breeding screams he will easily get the derby distance
in all of his victories margin is at least 2.5 lengths
has shown the ability to travel and adapt to different race tracks

[senator L]

I can see why lots of people like him 5 4 1 0
(2) gr 1's and gr 2 win, great breeding, good connections
has won from on and off the pace.
His speed figures are on the low side though
top (5) horse imo

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by pucknut

how about CD is regally bred
his breeding screams he will easily get the derby distance
in all of his victories margin is at least 2.5 lengths
has shown the ability to travel and adapt to different race tracks

lots of horses are well bred, have the pedigree, and win by good margins and travel well.
but, are they fast enough to keep up with the fastest?