How Vijay Got Into Medical School

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

It's inaccurate to say he was rejected at the schools as there's no evidence he applied to them previously before choosing to commit fraud. But hey, why let the pesky little details get in the way of one's personal agenda?

Read the piece I link to below, Rupert, if you can handle anything not from a right-wing source. The writer's got a bit of a potty mouth, but she includes an awful lot of details that the right-wing sources you're reading this from have opted to leave out.

http://reappropriate.co/?p=8281

There's some pesky details you neglected to include that were brought up in the comment section.

An Asian applicant with a 31Q MCAT score and a 3.1 GPA has a 17.9% chance of being accepted to med school (10.6% chance with only GPA considered)
https://www.aamc.org/download/321516...stable25-3.pdf

While an African American applicant with THE SAME MCAT score and GPA has a 74.3% chance of being accepted (25% with only GPA considered)
https://www.aamc.org/download/321514...stable25-2.pdf

This information not according to either a right or left leaning source but the Association of American Medical Colleges.

So while the author made a good point regarding the lack of a control in the 'experiment' the fact remains an African American applicant and Asian applicant with identical MCAT scores and GPA's results in the African American applicant having 4X the chance of being accepted.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

There's some pesky details you neglected to include that were brought up in the comment section.

An Asian applicant with a 31Q MCAT score and a 3.1 GPA has a 17.9% chance of being accepted to med school (10.6% chance with only GPA considered)
https://www.aamc.org/download/321516...stable25-3.pdf

While an African American applicant with THE SAME MCAT score and GPA has a 74.3% chance of being accepted (25% with only GPA considered)
https://www.aamc.org/download/321514...stable25-2.pdf

This information not according to either a right or left leaning source but the Association of American Medical Colleges.

So while the author made a good point regarding the lack of a control in the 'experiment' the fact remains an African American applicant and Asian applicant with identical MCAT scores and GPA's results in the African American applicant having 4X the chance of being accepted.

Dell, read the comments after the article, while contentious, they are pretty informative about the process of applying to medical school. There are a gajillion factors that go into how schools select (for example, a 3.1 from the University of Chicago, ranked #4 in undergraduate colleges in the nation, is going to weigh more than a higher GPA from some crappy state school).

But especially, a big thing with medical school applicants is that they apply to schools near to where they are, and so you have to look at population distribution nationwide- Asian Americans are concentrated in some areas, African Americans in others. While the AMA posts those stats, they don't paint a clear picture, without geographic distribution factored in. It's an incredibly complicated process, this "holistic" method of reviewing applications.

And- on top of that, if these are stats that the AMA is perfectly open about, then why does Mindy Kaling's unsuccessful brother, who couldn't even finish medical school, think that his 2 years of fraud is even noteworthy? Unless, of course, he's figured out that right-wingers are especially gullible to bs that "those people" get some kind of advantage and figures he's going to ride that right-wing grifter gravy train as far as he can, with his book proposal. Heck, Sarah Palin made a bucketload of money off it, why shouldn't he?

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Dell, read the comments after the article, while contentious, they are pretty informative about the process of applying to medical school. There are a gajillion factors that go into how schools select (for example, a 3.1 from the University of Chicago, ranked #4 in undergraduate colleges in the nation, is going to weigh more than a higher GPA from some crappy state school).

But especially, a big thing with medical school applicants is that they apply to schools near to where they are, and so you have to look at population distribution nationwide- Asian Americans are concentrated in some areas, African Americans in others. While the AMA posts those stats, they don't paint a clear picture, without geographic distribution factored in. It's an incredibly complicated process, this "holistic" method of reviewing applications.

And- on top of that, if these are stats that the AMA is perfectly open about, then why does Mindy Kaling's unsuccessful brother, who couldn't even finish medical school, think that his 2 years of fraud is even noteworthy? Unless, of course, he's figured out that right-wingers are especially gullible to bs that "those people" get some kind of advantage and figures he's going to ride that right-wing grifter gravy train as far as he can, with his book proposal. Heck, Sarah Palin made a bucketload of money off it, why shouldn't he?

I want to give you a hypothetical: Lets say a black man believed he was being discriminated against in some type of application process. So in order to prove it, he changes his application and says he is white. What would you say? Would you be pissed off about it and accuse him of fraud? Of course not. You would probably say the guy is a hero. Yet in the case of the Asian/American guy lying about his race, you portray him as a bad guy and accuse him of fraud. If that's not hypocrisy I don't know what is.

[dellinger63]

Too bad Vijay didn't aspire to head up a local NAACP chapter. Might not have even had to blackface.

The hypocrisy on display is undeniable.

[OldDog]

Originally Posted by dellinger63

Too bad Vijay didn't aspire to head up a local NAACP chapter.

Word is that the movie version will star Caitlyn Jennah.