Mubtaahij - Is he a real Derby threat?

[Kitan]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

It's kind of tough to question whether a horse with multiple dirt wins can handle dirt.

I question whether he is going to be effective enough on the surface to win a quality race like the Kentucky Derby. Yes, he has obviously done okay on it to date, but the point of my last post was that it doesn't mean a lot to me when it's against much lesser. If it was so easy to come over and win these types of races we would see it happen more often. He's not a Raven's Pass or an Arcangues coming over with proven G1 quality, granted he hasn't yet had the opportunity, and maybe he'll be an aberration, but I haven't seen anything whether it be visually or on paper that signals him to be a serious Derby contender.

[Thunder Gulch]

I can't calculate how much money I burned in the late 90's early 2000's trying to cover all the Euro/UAE horses in my exotics. One of these days, somebody will ship over and win, but they won't have my money backing them.

[pmayjr]

2 things to keep in mind. Sir Fever was coming off a long layoff, and I thought was very game in defeat. I think he's got a big chance to turn the tables in the UAE Derby.

But if Mubtaahij does take care of business in the UAE Derby, as much as the stats are completely against him having any success in the Kentucky Derby, he's very live if he goes. The reason- Mike de Kock. Dude is arguably the best trainer in the world. And how many horses has he ever shipped to the US? 4? If the horse comes, de Kick isn't taking a flyer and hoping for the best. He's in it to win it.

So I'd love to see the horse win and ship here due to the de Kock factor alone.

[cakes44]

De Kock vs the quarantine = major issues.

[PatCummings]

Originally Posted by cakes44

De Kock vs the quarantine = major issues.

Which quarantine? The one in the US? No sweat. He'd laugh at that assertion considering the quarantine they deal with getting out of South Africa.

https://www.thoroughbredracing.com/a...ne-route-dubai

Originally Posted by pmayjr

2 things to keep in mind. Sir Fever was coming off a long layoff, and I thought was very game in defeat. I think he's got a big chance to turn the tables in the UAE Derby.

But if Mubtaahij does take care of business in the UAE Derby, as much as the stats are completely against him having any success in the Kentucky Derby, he's very live if he goes. The reason- Mike de Kock. Dude is arguably the best trainer in the world. And how many horses has he ever shipped to the US? 4? If the horse comes, de Kick isn't taking a flyer and hoping for the best. He's in it to win it.

So I'd love to see the horse win and ship here due to the de Kock factor alone.

I dont know how he is the best trainer in the world. Are there a lot of world beaters in South Africa?

[PatCummings]

Originally Posted by helicopter11

I dont know how he is the best trainer in the world. Are there a lot of world beaters in South Africa?

Suggest you do some research.