I want to meet the person that would pay this

[SniperSB23]

This thread kind of shows how obsessed the game is with speed and unconcerned with soundness. This is a well bred horse that ran for 3 straight years racing in the biggest races out there without an injury which is becoming an extreme rarity in this sport. He may be slow but just by staying sound he made more money in his career than 99% of the horses out there will. In the long run I think we'll be better of with more Andromeda's Heros in the bloodlines than Sharp Humors.

[Cajungator26]

Off topic with AH, but did everyone read this as well?

http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/tod...68144&subsec=6

Gibson County is a nice looking horse! I didn't realize they had planned on gelding him...

[Buffymommy]

I do think the price is high. If I had a very speedy mare, maybe but not for that price.

[Linny]

The issue I have with AH is his lack of "will to win." Look at some of his races, most in fact. The jock has to ride the fur off him to get him to accelerate. He had no interest in exerting himself to catch or pass a rival. He had no gate speed to assure he was in front at any point. He just seemed indifferent to the whole thing.
I'd rather breed to a tenacious horse with lesser breeding and take my chances that I'd get a runner, a beast that wanted to beat horses.

Originally Posted by Linny

The issue I have with AH is his lack of "will to win." Look at some of his races, most in fact. The jock has to ride the fur off him to get him to accelerate. He had no interest in exerting himself to catch or pass a rival. He had no gate speed to assure he was in front at any point. He just seemed indifferent to the whole thing.
I'd rather breed to a tenacious horse with lesser breeding and take my chances that I'd get a runner, a beast that wanted to beat horses.

Well you could have a storm cat that will be unsound or you could have an AH who will more than likely be sound. I agree that the $12,5 is too high, but I think we will be surprised. Breeding isnt an exact science, so we so not know who we will get.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Linny

The issue I have with AH is his lack of "will to win." Look at some of his races, most in fact. The jock has to ride the fur off him to get him to accelerate. He had no interest in exerting himself to catch or pass a rival. He had no gate speed to assure he was in front at any point. He just seemed indifferent to the whole thing.
I'd rather breed to a tenacious horse with lesser breeding and take my chances that I'd get a runner, a beast that wanted to beat horses.

The chances that he passes on his lack of desire to win are slim to none IMO. FuPeg was what I consider "tenacious" and he didn't pass on that tenacity to AH...

You just never know what you're going to get... a lot depends on the mare. I do believe that $12,500 is too high, but I believe he will get some nice runners, but we'll have to wait and see. He's definitely a nice looking horse.

[largo1]

Even if they were the same price, I would definitely breed to AH over Bandini. I'm not a FuPeg fan but AH has beautiful conformation, he can run all day and he stays sound. I hope some breeders think $12,500 isn't too much to shell out to (hopefully) breed some soundness into the offspring. Actually, now that I think about it, I'm kinda curious to see what AH produces. In fact, the more I think about it, if I was a person who threw around hundreds of thousands of $$$$$$ breeding racehorses, I would send him a few nice mares.
So there. I'd pay it.
But I also wouldn't pay 1.98¢ to breed to a stallion with major soundness questions.

In the current overpriced market, it does not seem that outrageous to me. At least he is no China doll and he showed up regularly as an older horse in big races.

[sumitas]

I'd go to Cryptoclearance way before AH but it's a matter of pedigree and physicals as well.

[Five Star Derek]

I'll take Congaree for a couple of grand more

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by Linny

The issue I have with AH is his lack of "will to win." Look at some of his races, most in fact. The jock has to ride the fur off him to get him to accelerate. He had no interest in exerting himself to catch or pass a rival. He had no gate speed to assure he was in front at any point. He just seemed indifferent to the whole thing.
I'd rather breed to a tenacious horse with lesser breeding and take my chances that I'd get a runner, a beast that wanted to beat horses.

I don't think it was the will that was lacking, it was the acceleration. AH was a traditional one-paced horse. He has one gear and depends on the speed dying on a fast lead and/or and extended distance to win races. Against lower class horses, his one pace is fast enough to pass the others in the stretch - they are tiring more than better class speed horses do. He would have been a natural for the 1950s, where there were a wealth of main track stakes races for stayers. Remember - when grading started, the Jockey Club Gold Cup was 2 miles and the Gallant Fox (13f) was a G2.

This staying style is from Mum's side; his dam's only win was at 12f over the All Weather in England. His second dam was a SW who placed in the CCA Oaks (then 12f) and his second dam was second to Ruffian in the same classic (still 12f).

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann

I don't think it was the will that was lacking, it was the acceleration. AH was a traditional one-paced horse. He has one gear and depends on the speed dying on a fast lead and/or and extended distance to win races. Against lower class horses, his one pace is fast enough to pass the others in the stretch - they are tiring more than better class speed horses do. He would have been a natural for the 1950s, where there were a wealth of main track stakes races for stayers. Remember - when grading started, the Jockey Club Gold Cup was 2 miles and the Gallant Fox (13f) was a G2.

This staying style is from Mum's side; his dam's only win was at 12f over the All Weather in England. His second dam was a SW who placed in the CCA Oaks (then 12f) and his second dam was second to Ruffian in the same classic (still 12f).

Would you consider him a good match for a mare with some speed?