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Old 12-06-2006, 10:14 PM
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He'll get more then 10 because their will be some people trying to squeeze every drop of the Mr. Prospector line out of him.......

BINGO!!!!!!

Ochoco stands in Oregon for 2k I think
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Old 12-07-2006, 08:12 AM
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Euro,
People don't just pay for blood anymore. A horse like Bandini is standing for 17,500 and he won a grade one, had speed, and won some more decent races.
Who wouldn't just pay the extra 5 grand and I think THATS a lotta money for Bandini.
So many sires get wasted because they attempt to stand in Kentucky. Kentucky has so many sires that people wanna go to, that smaller stallions get lost in the shuffle and end up with a lousy book of mares.
Many bigger operations wil attempt to make a sire like this but they have a big advantage. First of all they have an abundance of good mares that they can breed the horse to in order to support him, and often they will use the big names to get people to breed to the sire they are trying to make.
What I mean by this is lets say Joe Schmoe calls up and submits three mares to try and go to a big stallion. Stallion manager may call back and say we can approve this one, and the other two arent good enough but if you breed one of these two to "so and so" our new stallion then we can approve the other one to the big stallion.
Thats how it works very often.
Making a stallion is an art that requires luck, marketing, and an abundance of good mares of your own or clients you can require to breed to one in exchange for acess to another stallion. You'll also notice that the bigger operations keep many of the foals of the initial three crops to race themselves that they don't try and sell. They have big name trainers they send these horses to in order to try and get wins with them in the first three crops.
Just buying stallions and standing them for a price doesn't work, it simply doesnt.
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Old 12-07-2006, 08:18 AM
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By the way Euro, many here scoffed at First Samurai's price when it was announced.
Lansdon told me on Monday that hes already fully booked to over 100 mares and the seasons are selling in the open market at well above the stud fee.
Hes gonna have a real chance to make it. Between the Claiborne mares and the fact that hes already booked so they could pick and choose who was allowed to go to him instead of having to hustle to fill the book, hes gonna have every opportunity to make it in a big way.
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Old 12-07-2006, 08:32 AM
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By the way Euro, many here scoffed at First Samurai's price when it was announced.
Lansdon told me on Monday that hes already fully booked to over 100 mares and the seasons are selling in the open market at well above the stud fee.
Hes gonna have a real chance to make it. Between the Claiborne mares and the fact that hes already booked so they could pick and choose who was allowed to go to him instead of having to hustle to fill the book, hes gonna have every opportunity to make it in a big way.
What is FS fee? Also, who else does this farm that has AH have? I understand what you are saying and I agree. I guess I am trying to find a silver lining in this $12,500 price.
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Old 12-07-2006, 08:34 AM
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What is FS fee? Also, who else does this farm that has AH have? I understand what you are saying and I agree. I guess I am trying to find a silver lining in this $12,500 price.
FS is 40 K
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Old 12-07-2006, 08:40 AM
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What is FS fee? Also, who else does this farm that has AH have? I understand what you are saying and I agree. I guess I am trying to find a silver lining in this $12,500 price.
They also stand Richter Scale. Andromeda's Hero is FuPeg's 2nd highest earner. Roman Ruler was 1st, obviously. This is JMO, but I think that AH will get better runners than Bandini... we'll have to wait and see.

First Samurai stands for $40k.
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Old 12-07-2006, 08:52 AM
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They also stand Richter Scale. Andromeda's Hero is FuPeg's 2nd highest earner. Roman Ruler was 1st, obviously. This is JMO, but I think that AH will get better runners than Bandini... we'll have to wait and see.

First Samurai stands for $40k.
I agree with Cajun. I think AH will be a nice sire. However, it is hard to justify is $12,500 based on what he did on the track. But I think he will do very well.
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Old 12-07-2006, 09:02 AM
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This thread kind of shows how obsessed the game is with speed and unconcerned with soundness. This is a well bred horse that ran for 3 straight years racing in the biggest races out there without an injury which is becoming an extreme rarity in this sport. He may be slow but just by staying sound he made more money in his career than 99% of the horses out there will. In the long run I think we'll be better of with more Andromeda's Heros in the bloodlines than Sharp Humors.
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