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Old 12-06-2006, 07:00 PM
Rupert Pupkin Rupert Pupkin is offline
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The only thing in that entire quote that has anything to do with the Christian right is the last line, and so I will address that.

It has nothing to do with how they think -- it is how I view the priorities of the Christian right and their politics.

Note that this whole uproar is really only coming from the far Christian right. There aren't a whole lot of liberals complaining that this man wants to take his ceremonial oath on the Quran, because there is no harm in it unless it's a religious objection. With that said, I liken it to gay marriage. I view their priorities, as projected in the press releases they put out, the columns they write, and the legislation they champion - as skewed.

Be against gay marriage, totally their prerogative. But don't focus all of the group's political clout on that issue when kids are starving and uninsured. Go ahead and be wildly afraid that ONE Muslim congressman is going to somehow overthrow the Constitution and waste resources attacking him when poverty runs rampant in the very same peoples' backyards.

That to me, is the classic case of the Christian right chasing stupid issues that don't REALLY affect anyone, or anyone's way of life -- when the proverbial "bigger fish to fry" are sitting there totally untouched because the group's political energy and clout is being squandered worrying about the little fish, aka gay marriage and now this ridiculous little flap over the Quran.


Now, if you still believe I am attempting to speak for the Christian right, please let me know where and I can clarify further because it's the furthest from what I am trying to do. I hope this cleared that up.
As I said before, I don't think the main issue is that the guy wants to take his oath on the Quran. That's not what really concerns people. What really concerns people's is what this guy's true views are. People are wondering if this guy has the same views as the groups he assocites with. I guess you can say that it's not important if he has extreme views because he is only man and he won't be able to have an effect on Congress. You could say that. But I don't think you would be saying that if this guy was a Christian with ties to the KKK or some other extreme groups. People would be very concerned and they would have a right to be. I don't know why you're giving this guy a free pass just because he is a Muslim.
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Old 12-07-2006, 04:09 PM
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As I said before, I don't think the main issue is that the guy wants to take his oath on the Quran. That's not what really concerns people. What really concerns people's is what this guy's true views are. People are wondering if this guy has the same views as the groups he assocites with. I guess you can say that it's not important if he has extreme views because he is only man and he won't be able to have an effect on Congress. You could say that. But I don't think you would be saying that if this guy was a Christian with ties to the KKK or some other extreme groups. People would be very concerned and they would have a right to be. I don't know why you're giving this guy a free pass just because he is a Muslim.
Rupert,
Since you mentioned the KKK and all the concern it would cause if they showed up in Washington DC with their "extreme views", perhaps you'd like to do a "google" on Indiana politics, Stephenson.
And yes, the KKK did have many marches down Pennsylvania Ave in the late 1920's and early 30's.
I'll search it for you and post the link.

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Old 12-07-2006, 04:22 PM
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Here you go...Read the first five pages.
http://www.in.gov/ism/Images/LessonP...sonPlan_47.pdf
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Old 12-07-2006, 05:59 PM
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Here you go...Read the first five pages.
http://www.in.gov/ism/Images/LessonP...sonPlan_47.pdf
I think they had a pretty strong following even much more recently than that. I think they were pretty active in the Southern states as recently as the 1960s. Thankfully they don't have much of a following any more. They are a disgraceful group.
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Old 12-07-2006, 07:07 PM
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I think they had a pretty strong following even much more recently than that. I think they were pretty active in the Southern states as recently as the 1960s. Thankfully they don't have much of a following any more. They are a disgraceful group.
Unfortunately...they're still allowed to breed!
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Old 12-07-2006, 10:13 PM
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KKk is still strong today, the grand master used to live about a quarter of a mile from here. 2 local high schools are still named for them. As recently as 15 years ago, they were trying to make vincennes(a juco college here in IN) into a kkk school, they went as far as to detail classes and lesson plans, just couldnt generate the cash. Its not what it used to be but its still alive and kicking.
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