New Congressman Thinks Quran Thumps Constitution

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

From the conversations that I've had on the other forum regarding this issue -- it's all just a bunch of crap dressed up as concern for our country. It has everything to do with him being a Muslim. If he were actually patently radical and/or dangerous, there is no chance in hell he would have been elected.

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Brian: please note that the article link is from WorldNewsDaily...hardly a Christian right wing site! So...what we have is you speaking about the Christian right reacting to Ellison and the Quoran...which is not what happened! So...once again your bias shows through. You can be what ever you want to Brian...gay,liberal,muslim,Rastafarian...please..j ust know what you talking about when you pretend to know what somebody is about!

I apologize if this link is considered the definitive source for this debate. This one story? Note the bold text in the original post. I began by referencing my experience on a Christian message board, and the links posted there and the research I have done has shown that it is generally the Christian right that is worried about this. Nothing wrong with that.

I don't actually recollect making any judgment about this news source's partisan or religious affiliation. So you're accusing me of not knowing what I'm talking about, and here I will accuse you of the same. You're implying that I have branded World News Daily as a right-wing Christian group. I am talking about the Christian right. You are saying that I am including this news source in that umbrella.

That's your injection into what I've written, not what I have actually written.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

I apologize if this link is considered the definitive source for this debate. This one story? Note the bold text in the original post. I began by referencing my experience on a Christian message board, and the links posted there and the research I have done has shown that it is generally the Christian right that is worried about this. Nothing wrong with that.

I don't actually recollect making any judgment about this news source's partisan or religious affiliation. So you're accusing me of not knowing what I'm talking about, and here I will accuse you of the same. You're implying that I have branded World News Daily as a right-wing Christian group. I am talking about the Christian right. You are saying that I am including this news source in that umbrella.

That's your injection into what I've written, not what I have actually written.

PARSE PARSE PARSE...so show me a link to what you think the Christian right is saying ...and what they believe...so far all I have to go on is your interpretation,which I think is faulty.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

PARSE PARSE PARSE...so show me a link to what you think the Christian right is saying ...and what they believe...so far all I have to go on is your interpretation,which I think is faulty.

If you want to read the Christian message board I am on, I'd be happy to PM you the link. They are the Christian right. They are certainly a good representation of the demographic.

A quick search on that forum for any of the issues that I would consider the "small fish" would show that any of those issues eat up more of their time and more of their energy than any of the issues that really matter in real life.

This is just one more of them. I, as much as you don't want to believe it, am not roosting on ideology here. I'm not working a bias into anything. It is what it is.

It's sort of like the treatmemt DTS gets here when making a legitimate non-partisan comment on any state of affairs -- just because people know who you are, they tend to infuse that into anything you say. Because you know I'm a gay liberal -- it becomes impossible for you to believe that anything I say can possibly be untainted. It's a fact of life I've come to accept.

And while I find it entertaining to sit here and argue with you about what I, repeat, I (aka the person who was thinking and typing) meant when thinking and typing something -- it really serves no point. I know what I meant and you can twist it any way you want to, but it doesn't change it. Therefore going further trying to convince you of what I meant is a moot point because you don't know what I meant, and no amount of my explaining is apparently going to change that. Which actually sounds a lot like a bias, now that you bring that word up. So I won't pursue it with you any further.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

If you want to read the Christian message board I am on, I'd be happy to PM you the link. They are the Christian right. They are certainly a good representation of the demographic.

A quick search on that forum for any of the issues that I would consider the "small fish" would show that any of those issues eat up more of their time and more of their energy than any of the issues that really matter in real life.

This is just one more of them. I, as much as you don't want to believe it, am not roosting on ideology here. I'm not working a bias into anything. It is what it is.

It's sort of like the treatmemt DTS gets here when making a legitimate non-partisan comment on any state of affairs -- just because people know who you are, they tend to infuse that into anything you say. Because you know I'm a gay liberal -- it becomes impossible for you to believe that anything I say can possibly be untainted. It's a fact of life I've come to accept.

And while I find it entertaining to sit here and argue with you about what I, repeat, I (aka the person who was thinking and typing) meant when thinking and typing something -- it really serves no point. I know what I meant and you can twist it any way you want to, but it doesn't change it. Therefore going further trying to convince you of what I meant is a moot point because you don't know what I meant, and no amount of my explaining is apparently going to change that. Which actually sounds a lot like a bias, now that you bring that word up. So I won't pursue it with you any further.

Wow..a 400 word answer to a simple question! So send the link already! I only asked you how you could speak for the right when you dont espouse what they teach...I didnt know you were gay until yesterday and frankly it doesnt matter to me. What does matter to me is that you are a young man with obvious energy, but you use voluminous answers for comon questions(and to state your position) My problem is you don't appear to understand what you're talking about,but you still keep spouting long answers. Hit the high spots..so this can progress!

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Wow..a 400 word answer to a simple question! So send the link already! I only asked you how you could speak for the right when you dont espouse what they teach...I didnt know you were gay until yesterday and frankly it doesnt matter to me. What does matter to me is that you are a young man with obvious energy, but you use voluminous answers for comon questions(and to state your position) My problem is you don't appear to understand what you're talking about,but you still keep spouting long answers. Hit the high spots..so this can progress!

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

I don't claim to speak for them, I never had, I never will. I'm not sure what part of my post you interpreted as such a claim -- but whichever part it was...it was terribly misinterpreted.

HA! I tried the short answer and you weren't having ANY of it!

Ready, we'll do it again...

I don't speak for them. I have never claimed to. And I never will.

High notes hit. Basically the conversation was over the middle of the last page then.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

HA! I tried the short answer and you weren't having ANY of it!

Ready, we'll do it again...

I don't speak for them. I have never claimed to. And I never will.

High notes hit. Basically the conversation was over the middle of the last page then.

Brian: use the private message link to send me this link(up in the right hand corner) and I'll visit them Thanks