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Old 12-06-2006, 05:43 PM
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I have said before, fundamentalist Christianity and fundamentalist Islam are more alike than they are different. Other than their choice of prophet, their adherents pretty much want exactly the same things- dead gays, no fun vices and women uneducated, pregnant and in bee-keeper suits. Woohoo! Good times.
GR: I disagree heartily! The BABBOONS who prance around on TV are hardly true reps for the Gospel. And the those inbreds who show up at funerals will be sorely mistaken when they get to the "Pearly Gates" Any radical faction is bad, and I don't think we should dismiss Islamic extremists lightly. This is a completely new animal..with new and agressive agendas. Extremists in France are burning 112 cars a day and Muslims in Germany have set a goal of controlling the country by 2015. That's scary,by anyones' logic!

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Old 12-06-2006, 05:57 PM
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GR: I disagree heartily! The BABOONS who prance around on TV are hardly true reps for the Gospel. And the those inbreds who show up at funerals will be sorely mistaken when they get to the "Pearly Gates" Any radical faction is bad, and I don't think we should dismiss Islamic extremists lightly. This is a completely new animal..with new and agressive agendas. Extremists in France are burning 112 cars a day and Muslims in Germany have set a goal of controlling the country by 2015. That's scary,by anyones' logic!
Timm, first of all, review my post where I say "fundamentalist Christians." Of course I don't think they are your average Christian, anymore than I think fundy Muslems are the average Muslem. That's just crazy talk. But I disagree with you about propensity for violence-- there are doctors dead at the hands of fundamentalist Christians, 180 dead Oklahomans thanks to a right-wing Christian, and several dead young gay men at the hands of Christians, and that's just in our country. Do you want to discuss Bosnia and the Christians killing Moslems there? Remember?

I do agree with you that Islam is facing a more obvious crisis right now-- it has based much of its identity on staying true to the past, and now it is smack up against a secularized modernity and the result currently ain't pretty. But fundamentalism in any faith is bad, and if we are to have the moral high ground in condemning fundamentalism in a minority faith in this nation, we jolly well better be just as harsh on fundamentalists in the majority faith in this country. Right now we accuse one of terrorism and turn a blind eye to the other. But killing someone because you think you're doing God's will is terrorism, no matter who your prophet is. And, to get back to the point of the article Rupert posted, we do have many, many people in elected and appointed federal office with some pretty skewed views on Christianity. But it's only when someone who may or may not have a skewed view in another faith gets elected that the media freaks out.

Speaking of folks with skewed views, anyone see that picture of John Ashcroft underneath the once-again unrobed statue of Justice? I've never been so happy to see a bare hooter.
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Old 12-06-2006, 06:13 PM
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Timm, first of all, review my post where I say "fundamentalist Christians." Of course I don't think they are your average Christian, anymore than I think fundy Muslems are the average Muslem. That's just crazy talk. But I disagree with you about propensity for violence-- there are doctors dead at the hands of fundamentalist Christians, 180 dead Oklahomans thanks to a right-wing Christian, and several dead young gay men at the hands of Christians, and that's just in our country. Do you want to discuss Bosnia and the Christians killing Moslems there? Remember?

I do agree with you that Islam is facing a more obvious crisis right now-- it has based much of its identity on staying true to the past, and now it is smack up against a secularized modernity and the result currently ain't pretty. But fundamentalism in any faith is bad, and if we are to have the moral high ground in condemning fundamentalism in a minority faith in this nation, we jolly well better be just as harsh on fundamentalists in the majority faith in this country. Right now we accuse one of terrorism and turn a blind eye to the other. But killing someone because you think you're doing God's will is terrorism, no matter who your prophet is. And, to get back to the point of the article Rupert posted, we do have many, many people in elected and appointed federal office with some pretty skewed views on Christianity. But it's only when someone who may or may not have a skewed view in another faith gets elected that the media freaks out.

Speaking of folks with skewed views, anyone see that picture of John Ashcroft underneath the once-again unrobed statue of Justice? I've never been so happy to see a bare hooter.
GR: I am a fundamentalist Christian and I don't condone bombing clinic(maybe PP)and if you're talking about McVeigh,you might as well talk about the right wing militias too. Do you throw all people in the "Christian bucket" unless thety profess otherwise? The analogy doesn't ring true. The examples of extremism are true stories and on a much larger scale than the ever dangerous "pro-life" movement! If you'll read my previous post on the swearing -in ceremony,you'll understand it's much ado about nothing!
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Old 12-06-2006, 06:14 PM
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Bee keepers. LOL!

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Speaking of folks with skewed views, anyone see that picture of John Ashcroft underneath the once-again unrobed statue of Justice? I've never been so happy to see a bare hooter.


ROTFLMAO!!!!

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