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Old 02-07-2015, 09:33 AM
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I agree with you that there are some bad cops out there. I have no tolerance for the bad ones. But most of the cases lately have not involved bad cops, even though the race baiters and some in the media want to portray them that way. For example, there is no evidence that Officer Wilson was a bad cop. He had never done anything bad before and he did nothing wrong in the Ferguson case in most people's opinion. Yet he is portrayed as some kind of really bad cop.

With regard to the militarization of the police, it is necessary in this day and age. Here in Los Angeles back in the 1997, there was a bank robbery where the bank robbers got into a shootout with the police. The bank robbers were better armed than the police. They had body armor and high-powered assault weapons. The police's bullets weren't even hurting them. Eleven police officers were injured. I don't know if you remember this incident but most people in Los Angeles remember it vividly. This incident woke people up to the need for the police to be better armed. We can't have criminals better armed than the police. Here is some info on that case:

"Local patrol officers at the time were typically armed with their standard issue 9 mm or .38 Special pistols, with some having a 12-gauge shotgun available in their cars. Phillips and Mătăsăreanu (the bank robbers) carried illegally modified fully automatic Norinco Type 56 S-1s (an AK-47-style weapon), a Bushmaster XM15 Dissipator, and a HK-91 rifle with high capacity drum magazines and ammunition capable of penetrating vehicles and police Kevlar vests. The bank robbers wore body armor which successfully protected them from bullets and shotgun pellets fired by the responding patrolmen. A SWAT eventually arrived bearing sufficient firepower, and they commandeered an armored truck to evacuate the wounded. Several officers also appropriated AR-15 rifles from a nearby firearms dealer. The incident sparked debate on the need for patrol officers to upgrade their firepower in similar situations in the future.[4]

Due to the large number of injuries, rounds fired, weapons used, and overall length of the shootout, it is regarded as one of the longest and bloodiest events in American police history.[5] The two men had fired approximately 1,100 rounds, while approximately 650 rounds were fired by police.[2]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Hollywood_shootout
oh good god.
you reference one circumstance, from 1997, to say that cops need mraps and the like??
yeah, that happened which explains why the la school district needed rpg's...
and why even tho crime is down significantly swat raids needed to increase tenfold.
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Old 02-07-2015, 09:40 AM
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http://www.latimes.com/opinion/edito...208-story.html

and absolutely read the scathing report from the aclu. also, take note in the article:

states have access to National Guard units they can deploy when circumstances call for a military response.



when police depts request these cool toys, there is a rule regarding keeping those neato things...they have to use them within a year to show that they do indeed need them.
yeah, so hurry and use them police, so you can justify them. that's what ferguson did--in response to protests. the rioting came after they showed up in full war gear.
in many of the cases hitting the news lately....things escalated between police and the public due to the actions of the police. they then use the escalation to excuse their response.
you had a 23 year old cop who ignored texas law and tazed an old man. thankfully he didn't shoot and kill the guy. but he did lose his job. that needs to happen elsewhere as well.


now, this is what i view as a great stance that all departments would do well to emulate:

http://gawker.com/police-chief-respe...sto-1675787560
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Good police work here...that'll show em

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The indictment accuses the suspects of dealing heroin, crack, marijuana, Oxycodone and Alprazolam.
Quite a haul


http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.2109644
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Good police work here...that'll show em



Quite a haul


http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.2109644
Well, thank god for that. The NYPD needs to make sure it's supplied with stuff to plant on innocents to make quota:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...ticle-1.963021
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Well, thank god for that. The NYPD needs to make sure it's supplied with stuff to plant on innocents to make quota:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...ticle-1.963021
oh, geez.

yeah, no need for an independent arbiter for that force. nothing to see here, move along.
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oh, geez.

yeah, no need for an independent arbiter for that force. nothing to see here, move along.
Holy smokes Andy, crooked cops what's next...innocent people in jail

Dan, you watch Stewart this week?..Monday show hilarious..last nite he announced he will retire this year..shucks, i'll have to get my real news from Faux
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Holy smokes Andy, crooked cops what's next...innocent people in jail

Dan, you watch Stewart this week?..Monday show hilarious..last nite he announced he will retire this year..shucks, i'll have to get my real news from Faux
yeah, i saw he's leaving. comedy central can't be happy with colbert leaving, to find out JS is also moving on.
wonder who will replace...
as for other seriously troubling news:

http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog...-anti-gay-bill

it's crap like this that makes me ashamed of my adopted state.

i was pleased my state sen. voted against it...and i just wrote to the governor about it.
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