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02-05-2015, 05:24 PM
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With regards to Tiger, I still think there is an excellent chance he will win majors again. I'm not saying it's a sure thing. Some guys never recover after going into slumps. Daviid Duval never recovered. He was #2 in the world and he can hardly make a cut nowadays. There are plenty of good players that that has happened to. But there are also plenty of good players who went into bad slumps for several years and ended up coming back as good as ever. There is no way to tell for sure. But if there is anyone who I would think could come back, it would be Tiger. 
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02-05-2015, 06:01 PM
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Don't talk to me like I'm five years old. Obviously we need the police and there are more good cops than bad ones. But the bad ones are doing more and more damage as time goes on because they are almost never held accountable when they harm and kill innocent people. Not to mention the increased firepower they're getting from all of our surplus Iraq/Afghanistan military toys. It's a very bad combination. It sounds like you live in a bubble where you never have any interactions with hostile police, which is great, but for the rest of us out here, news like the story Jim posted is troubling as hell.
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02-05-2015, 06:56 PM
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Books serve to show a man that those original thoughts of his aren't very new at all. Abraham Lincoln
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02-06-2015, 12:56 AM
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There are always going to be some bad cops. That is expected. There are bad doctors, bad lawyers, bad firemen, etc. That is reality. But just because there are some bad cops that hardly makes them "an unaccountable paramilitary force". Do you have any evidence that the police are using more force than they used to or that there is more police misconduct now than there was 20 years ago? By the way, just because Al Sharpton says a cop acted improperly, doesn't make it so. Was there "no accountability in Ferguson"? Maybe according to you and Al Sharpton. But the vast amount of people in this country who heard the facts of the case thought there was total transparency and accountability. There was a full investigation and the vast majority of people including the DA, the FBI, and the grand jury found no evidence of wrongdoing on the part of Officer Wilson. I don't know if that case is one of your examples of police acting out of control. It it is, then your definition is different than the vast majorities of Americans. That doesn't mean that you are necessarily wrong and everybody else is right, but it means that there are different opinions out there and most people would disagree with your characterization of the police being out of control. You are certainly entitled to your opinion but you shouldn't expect me to agree with you.
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02-06-2015, 01:19 AM
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Ah yes, Al Sharpton. No argument with a right-wing airhead is complete without a mention of their boogeyman shoehorned into it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25BBGnd-JkE Look at that. That was the 2nd night of protests and an American police force's response to (at that point) peaceful protesters. If you don't think that's a paramilitary force and a terrifying look into what the future of American policing could look like, I don't know what to say. They were firing tear gas canisters at people standing in their own back yards for God's sake. How can you possibly defend this? Damn near every single police shooting in 2014 in America was deemed justified. SWAT teams used to be deployed a few thousand times a year, now they're used a thousand times a week, often for low-level crimes. Countless people have been brutalized, traumatized and killed by cops with zero accountability and they're only getting more heavily armed and aggressive despite crime being at record lows. You have a lot of nerve saying the police need to be using more force, not less, but again, that's what happens when you live a completely insulated life from any kind of interaction with the increasingly militarized police in this country. You get to sit in your bubble and use every possible explanation for why the cops are always right and the people whose lives they ruin are always the bad guys. It's ignorant, juvenile and pathetic.
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02-06-2015, 09:22 AM
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02-06-2015, 01:28 PM
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and heres something i just thought of. If you look at the fairly recent scotus ruling on king vs maryland, many jurisdictions enter your info into a database if youre arrested for a felony. So, not only does this stiffen a penalty for something that should remain a misdemeanor, it also potentially would grant search powers on these people. one shkuld be very wary when any agency wishes to attack our rights to protest and peacefully assemble.
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02-06-2015, 10:00 AM
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You say that nearly every single police shooting in 2014 was deemed justified. I have some shocking news for you. Practically every one of them was justified. I'm sure there were a few that weren't and those cops were prosecuted when there was evidence. I hate to break this news to you but there has to be evidence to prosecute. Cops are entitled due process just like everyone else. We don't lock cops up just because mindless left-wing airheads like you and Al Sharpton say that a crime was committed. You guys want due process for your criminal idols but not for the police. I want due process for everyone. By no means do I favor the use of heavily armed police (whether local or federal) for trivial and non-violent offenses. If you remember, I was outraged when some heavily armed government agency raided that animal rescue place (I think it was in Ohio) because they were fostering a baby deer. I have no idea where you come up with the characterization of "zero accountability". There is always accountability. The definition of accountability is having to answer for your actions. The police always have to answer for their actions. If there is an officer involved shooting, there is always accountability. There is always an investigation, many times by outside agencies. There was accountability with regards to the case in Ferguson. The officer had to answer for his actions. Just because he wasn't convicted of anything, that doesn't mean there was no accountability. We only convict people based on evidence, not on your opinion, Al Sharpton's opinion, or the lynch mobs' opinion. I think you must be the one living in the bubble. The vast majority of Americans don't have interactions with "hostile police" all the time as you do. The vast majority of Americans have an overall positive opinion of the police. You are acting like I am in the minority, when in fact most people would agree with me. I live in a big city and I occasionally have interactions with the police. Some of them are jerks, but there are jerks in every occupation. The percentage may be slightly higher in law enforcement, but what can you do? What is the solution? The system isn't perfect. By the way, ever since I left the bloods, the police have stopped harassing me. I will use your words and say that it is ignorant, juvenile, and pathetic for you to think the police are always wrong and are always the bad guy. You may not have said that, but you accused me of saying that the police are always right and are never the bad guy (even though I never said that). By the way, I'd like to see your source that documents SWAT teams now being used a thousand times a week instead of a few thousand times a year. With regard to your characterization that crime is at record lows, what bubble are you living in? In Los Angeles, violent crime was up 14% last year. "By far, the most dramatic rise was in aggravated assaults — serious attacks that typically involve a weapon or serious injury — which rose 24.2% compared with 2013." How big of an airhead would a guy have to be to be more concerned with a few cases of police misconduct than with the tens of thousands of violent assaults and murders that occurred last year across this country? http://www.latimes.com/local/crime/l...231-story.html
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02-06-2015, 11:11 AM
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I know the context because I was watching it live you fuc king buffoon. I wasn't sitting in my ivory tower waiting for Fox News to tell me why it's ok to blame poor/black people for the latest issue. There were 20-30 people in the street chanting and that was the police's response. Yay America.
This is why I don't venture into these threads often, because it raises my blood pressure to actually interact with someone as dangerously ignorant and out-of-touch as Rupert. But I'm glad you like the police in America looking like Mubarak's army in Egypt in that video. It should tell everyone never to take any of your libertarian "get big gubmint out of my life" bullshit seriously ever again. Because the militarization of the police is the biggest government overreach there could be and while it was happening you stood there waving your pom pom's for it.
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02-06-2015, 12:41 PM
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You are one of these typical liberals who thinks he knows more than anybody. It is so funny listening to guys like you who think that anyone who has a different opinion from yours is "ignorant". By the way, I never claimed to be a libertarian but I do have libertarian views on some issues. With regard to the police, they are a "necessary evil" in a civilized society. And unfortunately we need more of them, not less. I hope we get to the point where there is so little crime that we need less of them. When that time comes, I will be the first person to demand that police departments stop hiring. But I highly doubt that will ever happen. I have to question what country you live in if you think the big problem is the police, rather than the criminals. Anyone listening to you would think you live in Iraq under Saddam Hussein. With regard to Mubarak's army in Egypt, who would you rather have in power in Egypt, Mubarak or the Muslim Brotherhood? I would take Mubarak every day of the week. Your arguments are so childish saying that I wait for Fox News to tell me what the problem is. First of all, it isn't true that I make my opinions based on any specific news source. I use 30 different news sources and still always form my own conclusions. Second of all, I could make the same accusation to you. I could say that you wait for MSNBC to tell you that the police are to blame for all the problems. Does that sound like an intelligent comment? No. So why do you constantly make comments like this? Anyone who has the opposite viewpoint of you is "ignorant" and gets all their info from Fox News. You won't be winning any debate contests any time soon. In a debate you should always focus on the facts. But if the facts don't support your case, you can always tell people how much smarter and how much more well informed you are than they are. That wins a lot of points. 
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02-06-2015, 01:35 PM
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I think there should be a zero tolerance policy on civil unrest. Anybody who gets violent including throwing objects and/or breaking things should be arrested immediately. I'm fine with peaceful protests but once they cross the line they need to be arrested. I feel bad for all the people whose businesses got burned down. It would never happen if we supported the police and let them do their jobs. They get criticized by the left so much that sometimes they are afraid to do their jobs. And for the 10th time, I don't think the police are perfect. When there is obvious misconduct or even obvious incompetence, I am the first person to want the officers to be held accountable. There was a case recently where the police were searching a neighborhood for a suspect and they were going through people's backyards throughout the neighborhood. They went into one guy's yard and when they saw a dog (who belonged to the homeowner) they shot and killed it. I was outraged by this. I didn't defend the cop. Quite to the contrary, I thought there needed to be consequences. You don't go into a guy's yard without a warrant and kill his dog. There wasn't even any reason to believe that the suspect was hiding in this particular yard. It was just one out of fifty houses in that neighborhood where they were searching. I thought this was certainly an abuse of power by the police. By all accounts, the dog was friendly too.
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