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Old 01-16-2015, 06:04 PM
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Not being able to enter within 14 days is absurd.
Restriction on short run backs isn't so much to guard on that immediate next start, but the possibility of 3-4 starts, etc., in too intense a burst.
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Old 01-16-2015, 07:37 PM
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PR and that's it.

Like Martin Brody yelling shark only in NYRA's waters nothing is there.

Squeaky wheel always gets the grease!
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Old 01-16-2015, 09:28 PM
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Restriction on short run backs isn't so much to guard on that immediate next start, but the possibility of 3-4 starts, etc., in too intense a burst.
Will they have exceptions to the rule? For instance, if a horse du.ps his jock at the break of a race and doesnt run..be cant enter for two weeks?
i get why they made the rule, but we have all seen horses run back fine immediately after. The frankel mare who won 2 stakes a week apart comes to mind.
trainers are supposed to be pros...if you have a trainer not being professional, and being too hard on his horses, i would expect him to be ruled off, rather than a rule like this.
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Old 01-16-2015, 10:38 PM
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Effective Jan 22, David Jacobson will be relocating his stock.
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Old 01-17-2015, 05:37 AM
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Hmmm the 14 day rule would have put Oscar out of business in his day, heck he would win 4 races in 14 days with same horse.
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Old 01-17-2015, 06:28 AM
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And maybe that is how they have finally gotten rid of Jacobson, with these new rules.
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Old 01-17-2015, 08:03 AM
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If the bottom claiming level is upped from $10,000 for Open Claimers and $12,500 for Maiden Claimers, my understanding is that NYRA has estimated that this will cost them fields for at least three races per week which explains the shortening of the weekday race cards to eight races. As these levels only appear at Aqueduct's winter meet, my guess is that nine race cards will return with either the main track opening or surely at the Belmont meeting.

If Steve's view is correct that the 14-day rule is designed to prevent triple or quadruple runs during a fortnight, the rule really should be written that way. Since several horses have been running on a seven or ten day cycle and helping to fill cards, this will lead to shorter fields.

I do however like the idea of a vet's list for non-competitive runners although basing those nominations on losing distance seems wrong. As one reader has pointed out, what happens is you lose the Carter by 25 lengths? The idea of qualifying races, a more stringent version of mandatory gate works or workouts, might have finally found their place in thoroughbred racing.

Short of qualifiers, perhaps any horse that is eased in the final quarter mile of races 5.5 furlongs or less, final 3/16s of 6 furlongs, or final eighth at a mile or more should be placed on the vet's list. In other words, try to make it a combination of the jockey's interpretation of the horses competitive level and performance on the track.
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Old 01-17-2015, 10:08 AM
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To me this is purely PR and will have little or no truly measurable result. Fatalities often happen seemingly in bunches, then average out over the long term. It's like a slot machine that hits a lot one day and then goes dead for a few days. Often it's just randomness.

To me this seems like an attempt to shift any responsibility to the trainers, vets and stewards.
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Old 01-18-2015, 07:06 AM
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If Steve's view is correct that the 14-day rule is designed to prevent triple or quadruple runs during a fortnight, the rule really should be written that way. Since several horses have been running on a seven or ten day cycle and helping to fill cards, this will lead to shorter fields.
In concept, I am not a fan of the 14-day rule. I would rather the racing office exercise its reasonable discretion to accept or reject entries. Having said that, based upon discussions with racing department officials about other rules, my sense is that they went with a bright-line rule on entry dates rather than having to be put in the position of having to explain why Horse A was allowed to run back in less than 14 days while Horse B was not allowed to run back in such a time frame.

I'm not sure that this rule will necessarily lead to shorter fields. It may make certain races harder to fill, but those races that do fill may end up with larger fields (as each condition tends to come up every three weeks in the condition book, and if you pass one book race, you may not run for six weeks).
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Old 01-21-2015, 10:04 PM
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Effective Jan 22, David Jacobson will be relocating his stock.

DING!DING!DING!
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