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Old 06-15-2006, 01:18 PM
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Well he usually has a few 2yr olds, doesn't he.
I believe those two won the 2yo Stakes race on the KY Derby Undercard. You are right he does have a ton, but those were 2 examples of horses that he kept in training at a high level.
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Old 06-15-2006, 01:22 PM
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I believe those two won the 2yo Stakes race on the KY Derby Undercard. You are right he does have a ton, but those were 2 examples of horses that he kept in training at a high level.
The guy has 1 horse that costs more than most trainers top 2yr olds combined. The problem with racing horses this soon is that they are running distances that are completely useless in putting any foundation in a horse. What good does a 5F race do a horse. You might as well just breeze them 5F and let them come around for the fall.
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Old 06-15-2006, 01:24 PM
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The guy has 1 horse that costs more than most trainers top 2yr olds combined. The problem with racing horses this soon is that they are running distances that are completely useless in putting any foundation in a horse. What good does a 5F race do a horse. You might as well just breeze them 5F and let them come around for the fall.
I would guess that they put em in a race to see how they well they run with other horses. You can't always judge a horse by how they breeze. I would personally wait until later before debuting them, but I'm not the trainer.
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Old 06-15-2006, 02:04 PM
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I don't think it's wise to race 2 year olds early and often.
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Old 06-15-2006, 02:05 PM
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I don't think it's wise to race 2 year olds early and often.
I don't think anyone does. People want some return on their money though and most rush these horses along.
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Old 06-15-2006, 02:07 PM
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I don't think anyone does. People want some return on their money though and most rush these horses along.
Yeah I know, he looked really unprepared for todays effort.
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Old 06-15-2006, 02:09 PM
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I'm not real keen on racing horses at 2, but ifyour horse is ready, you may as well strike while the irons hot.
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Old 06-15-2006, 02:20 PM
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Yeah I know, he looked really unprepared for todays effort.
Lets talk when it counts next year. Let's see how he holds up.
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Old 06-15-2006, 02:08 PM
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Grenig was right. Before the Belmont he had started a total number of 49 horses in 20 triple crown races. Now its 51 in 21 races.

We all know he'll have at least 10 wins by the time hes 50. Its all about strength in numbers.
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Old 06-15-2006, 02:22 PM
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Grenig was right. Before the Belmont he had started a total number of 49 horses in 20 triple crown races. Now its 51 in 21 races.

We all know he'll have at least 10 wins by the time hes 50. Its all about strength in numbers.
If he is lucky he will have 2 wins by 50.
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Old 06-16-2006, 08:32 PM
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The problem with racing horses this soon is that they are running distances that are completely useless in putting any foundation in a horse. What good does a 5F race do a horse. You might as well just breeze them 5F and let them come around for the fall.
Didn't seem to hurt Secretariat, Affirmed and Alydar, et. al. The odd thing is that in the last 20 years trainers have cut back on running 2yos earlier in the year in hopes they will last longer at 3, yet it seems to be having the opposite effect. Round Table won the Keeneland SPRING meet 2yo stakes and lasted forever.
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