Good Lord another pletcher freak

[Pointg5]

Originally Posted by boldruler

It is June. How many times did Bernardini race before last June? Who cares what happens until October at the earliest. If you are talking KY Derby in June of the 2yr old year, you have zero credibility.

One thing I'll say about Pletcher, he can keep them going and winning stakes into their 3yo or 4yo years. More Than Ready won very early at 2 and won stakes at 3, Limehouse won at 2 and was winning stakes at 4. If anyone keeps them going, it's Pletcher.

Originally Posted by Pointg5

One thing I'll say about Pletcher, he can keep them going and winning stakes into their 3yo or 4yo years. More Than Ready won very early at 2 and won stakes at 3, Limehouse won at 2 and was winning stakes at 4. If anyone keeps them going, it's Pletcher.

Well he usually has a few 2yr olds, doesn't he.

[Pointg5]

Originally Posted by boldruler

Well he usually has a few 2yr olds, doesn't he.

I believe those two won the 2yo Stakes race on the KY Derby Undercard. You are right he does have a ton, but those were 2 examples of horses that he kept in training at a high level.

Originally Posted by Pointg5

I believe those two won the 2yo Stakes race on the KY Derby Undercard. You are right he does have a ton, but those were 2 examples of horses that he kept in training at a high level.

The guy has 1 horse that costs more than most trainers top 2yr olds combined. The problem with racing horses this soon is that they are running distances that are completely useless in putting any foundation in a horse. What good does a 5F race do a horse. You might as well just breeze them 5F and let them come around for the fall.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by boldruler

The guy has 1 horse that costs more than most trainers top 2yr olds combined. The problem with racing horses this soon is that they are running distances that are completely useless in putting any foundation in a horse. What good does a 5F race do a horse. You might as well just breeze them 5F and let them come around for the fall.

I would guess that they put em in a race to see how they well they run with other horses. You can't always judge a horse by how they breeze. I would personally wait until later before debuting them, but I'm not the trainer.

[sumitas]

I don't think it's wise to race 2 year olds early and often.

Originally Posted by sumitas

I don't think it's wise to race 2 year olds early and often.

I don't think anyone does. People want some return on their money though and most rush these horses along.

Originally Posted by boldruler

I don't think anyone does. People want some return on their money though and most rush these horses along.

Yeah I know, he looked really unprepared for todays effort.

[Gander]

Grenig was right. Before the Belmont he had started a total number of 49 horses in 20 triple crown races. Now its 51 in 21 races.

We all know he'll have at least 10 wins by the time hes 50. Its all about strength in numbers.

Originally Posted by Gander

Grenig was right. Before the Belmont he had started a total number of 49 horses in 20 triple crown races. Now its 51 in 21 races.

We all know he'll have at least 10 wins by the time hes 50. Its all about strength in numbers.

If he is lucky he will have 2 wins by 50.

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by boldruler

The problem with racing horses this soon is that they are running distances that are completely useless in putting any foundation in a horse. What good does a 5F race do a horse. You might as well just breeze them 5F and let them come around for the fall.

Didn't seem to hurt Secretariat, Affirmed and Alydar, et. al. The odd thing is that in the last 20 years trainers have cut back on running 2yos earlier in the year in hopes they will last longer at 3, yet it seems to be having the opposite effect. Round Table won the Keeneland SPRING meet 2yo stakes and lasted forever.

[LARHAGE]

Originally Posted by Pointg5

One thing I'll say about Pletcher, he can keep them going and winning stakes into their 3yo or 4yo years. More Than Ready won very early at 2 and won stakes at 3, Limehouse won at 2 and was winning stakes at 4. If anyone keeps them going, it's Pletcher.

Yeah, I was especially impressed with Half-ours.