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Old 12-30-2014, 11:07 AM
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Just leafing through the 2013 American Racing Manual and lining these figs up up with past winners and Beyer pars:

MALIBU: Beyer Index 104
Shared Belief 99 is lowest Beyer since Johnny Eves 94 in 2007.

LA BREA: Beyer Index 98
Only 3 horses in 25 years have run Beyers in the 80s. Sam's Sister- join the club!

DAYTONA Beyer Index 99
Betty's Bambino the lowest Beyer ever 2004-12.

MR PROSPECTOR Beyer Index 107
Speechify 102 is better than 2011-12 winners 99-98 and generally in line with recent trends.

LA PREV Beyer Index 97
Irish Mission 92 in line with recent trends 2010-12 (93-93-88)

McKNIGHT Beyer Index 100
Divine Oath 97 the fastest since 2008.

What to make of the significant deficits on the Santa Anita races???

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Old 12-30-2014, 11:32 AM
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Just leafing through the 2013 American Racing Manual and lining these figs up up with past winners and Beyer pars:

MALIBU: Beyer Index 104
Shared Belief 99 is lowest Beyer since Johnny Eves 94 in 2007.

LA BREA: Beyer Index 98
Only 3 horses in 25 years have run Beyers in the 80s. Sam's Sister- join the club!

DAYTONA Beyer Index 99
Betty's Bambino the lowest Beyer ever 2004-12.

MR PROSPECTOR Beyer Index 107
Speechify 102 is better than 2011-12 winners 99-98 and generally in line with recent trends.

LA PREV Beyer Index 97
Irish Mission 92 in line with recent trends 2010-12 (93-93-88)

McKNIGHT Beyer Index 100
Divine Oath 97 the fastest since 2008.

What to make of the significant deficits on the Santa Anita races???

Cheers,

Otis
Might have been a day at SA were figs at least Beyer's will not prove as useful a handicapping tool as they typically are? I don't know to me the race was unimpressive (Malibu). Public handicappers and professions seemed to like the race better. Many thought it was another outstanding performance by SB. I think it left more questions unanswered on dirt.
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Old 12-30-2014, 04:52 PM
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I agree with you, Freddy. The Santa Anita figs are maybe not as useful as normal. I wonder if the track was dull on opening day, but I thought that was already factored into the Beyers.

Interesting to note that the Florida stakes winners all ran to recent historical norms. How would you weigh these figs if a Santa Anita horse met a GP horse coming out of these races?

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Old 12-30-2014, 06:10 PM
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I agree with you, Freddy. The Santa Anita figs are maybe not as useful as normal. I wonder if the track was dull on opening day, but I thought that was already factored into the Beyers.

Interesting to note that the Florida stakes winners all ran to recent historical norms. How would you weigh these figs if a Santa Anita horse met a GP horse coming out of these races?

Otis
They would get crushed based on the figures. I think in general though horses are running 5-15 points below historical norms in the mdn, alw, and stake levels.

I dont by it but I use other figures that show there has not been the same drop off over past years.
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