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Old 11-22-2014, 06:14 AM
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It's beyond sad how much pleasure you seem to take in the denial of a scenario that would benefit a large group of people while having little or modest discernible impact on your obvious own self interest.
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Old 11-22-2014, 07:22 AM
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Old 11-22-2014, 11:15 AM
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It's beyond sad how much pleasure you seem to take in the denial of a scenario that would benefit a large group of people while having little or modest discernible impact on your obvious own self interest.
While I have great respect for you personally, and the fabulous job you do professionally, the highlighted part of your statement is terribly false. There are scores of folks in the state of Nevada whom would be both directly and indirectly impacted by national-legal sports wagering. For many of us, it would be a devastating blow to our livelihoods.
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Old 11-22-2014, 11:25 AM
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While I have great respect for you personally, and the fabulous job you do professionally, the highlighted part of your statement is terribly false. There are scores of folks in the state of Nevada whom would be both directly and indirectly impacted by national-legal sports wagering. For many of us, it would be a devastating blow to our livelihoods.
What valid reason is there for Nevada to have a monopoly on Sports betting? How hallow an argument that sports betting will cause irreparable harm to the Sports organizations that are being bet on. If a judge allows that argument than sports betting should be stripped from Nevada. Makes no sense whatsoever other than to point out the outright corruptness that goes on in our country masquerading as a legal system.
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Old 11-22-2014, 11:41 AM
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While I have great respect for you personally, and the fabulous job you do professionally, the highlighted part of your statement is terribly false. There are scores of folks in the state of Nevada whom would be both directly and indirectly impacted by national-legal sports wagering. For many of us, it would be a devastating blow to our livelihoods.
That's preposterous. You're suggesting that #1, an overwhelmingly enormous percentage of Nevada visitors are ONLY coming there to sports bet and #2, they are going to collectively stop coming to Nevada if able to bet in NJ, or Delaware, or wherever. Neither is true. Have Ontario and Quebec residents stopped coming because they can sports bet through their lotteries?

Monopolists are always for the sanctity of their monopoly.. I get it. You'd howl though if similar conditions existed that nullified your ability to open a restaurant somewhere you wanted.
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Old 11-22-2014, 02:41 PM
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That's preposterous. You're suggesting that #1, an overwhelmingly enormous percentage of Nevada visitors are ONLY coming there to sports bet and #2, they are going to collectively stop coming to Nevada if able to bet in NJ, or Delaware, or wherever. Neither is true. Have Ontario and Quebec residents stopped coming because they can sports bet through their lotteries?

Monopolists are always for the sanctity of their monopoly.. I get it. You'd howl though if similar conditions existed that nullified your ability to open a restaurant somewhere you wanted.


Also, once sports betting is legally accessible online (admittedly probably 10-15 years away but is coming), that rising tide will lift all boats and Nevada will easily recoup whatever minor losses it takes when its monopoly expires.
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Old 11-23-2014, 08:14 AM
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That's preposterous. You're suggesting that #1, an overwhelmingly enormous percentage of Nevada visitors are ONLY coming there to sports bet and #2, they are going to collectively stop coming to Nevada if able to bet in NJ, or Delaware, or wherever. Neither is true. Have Ontario and Quebec residents stopped coming because they can sports bet through their lotteries?

Monopolists are always for the sanctity of their monopoly.. I get it. You'd howl though if similar conditions existed that nullified your ability to open a restaurant somewhere you wanted.
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Old 11-23-2014, 10:13 AM
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Legalized betting is going to happen, just a matter of time. Its nice to see racing trying to be at the forefront of that effort. They dont really have the juice it seems to make it happen though, the NBA is on board and I suppose when the NFL and MLB get on it will happen pretty quickly.
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Legalized betting is going to happen, just a matter of time. Its nice to see racing trying to be at the forefront of that effort. They dont really have the juice it seems to make it happen though, the NBA is on board and I suppose when the NFL and MLB get on it will happen pretty quickly.
I am not so sure. Quite a lot of bribes er make that lobbying money trying to prevent that.
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Old 11-23-2014, 05:11 PM
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I am not so sure. Quite a lot of bribes er make that lobbying money trying to prevent that.
The biggest change is the states really have no choice but to raise revenue with other means, this seems like an easy one.
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Old 11-22-2014, 03:53 PM
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While I have great respect for you personally, and the fabulous job you do professionally, the highlighted part of your statement is terribly false. There are scores of folks in the state of Nevada whom would be both directly and indirectly impacted by national-legal sports wagering. For many of us, it would be a devastating blow to our livelihoods.
Who are these scores of people you speak of? What positions do they hold that would threaten their livelihood from sports wagering thousands of miles away.
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