No lasix needed here

[Indian Charlie]

These arguments for lasix shown in this thread are ridiculously simplistic.

Let's just dismiss all the KNOWN problems with diuretics so we can beat our chests that in this one instance, we were right.

Cause, you know, if you are right once, you are right all the time.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

These arguments for lasix shown in this thread are ridiculously simplistic.

Let's just dismiss all the KNOWN problems with diuretics so we can beat our chests that in this one instance, we were right.

Cause, you know, if you are right once, you are right all the time.

Is it any more simplistic than when those supporting a Lasix ban cite a horse winning without Lasix as evidence that no horses need to be using it?

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by parsixfarms

Is it any more simplistic than when those supporting a Lasix ban cite a horse winning without Lasix as evidence that no horses need to be using it?

I suppose not, but the chest thumping righteousness is a bit much.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

These arguments for lasix shown in this thread are ridiculously simplistic.

Let's just dismiss all the KNOWN problems with diuretics so we can beat our chests that in this one instance, we were right.

Cause, you know, if you are right once, you are right all the time.

You should apply to be Obama's Press Secretary with such a simplistic, dismissive argument against a prime example that supports the arguments made by those who support the use of Lasix.

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by pointman

You should apply to be Obama's Press Secretary with such a simplistic, dismissive argument against a prime example that supports the arguments made by those who support the use of Lasix.

Prime example?

You don't even know if the horse wouldn't have bled with Lasix being used, which happens more than you seem to realize.

Prime example?

If that's one of the best examples you can come up with, the pro Lasix camp has already lost.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Prime example?

You don't even know if the horse wouldn't have bled with Lasix being used, which happens more than you seem to realize.

Prime example?

If that's one of the best examples you can come up with, the pro Lasix camp has already lost.

A favorite in one of the biggest, most heavily bet, races of the year coming off a monster run that inexplicably backs up to last when in good position to make a run seems to be a pretty prime example of why Lasix is both good for the horse and for the bettors.

[Conrad]

Originally Posted by pointman

A favorite in one of the biggest, most heavily bet, races of the year coming off a monster run that inexplicably backs up to last when in good position to make a run seems to be a pretty prime example of why Lasix is both good for the horse and for the bettors.

Yeah cuz it couldn't have anything to do with the fact that Rich Tapestry sat on a slow pace in his last race and tried to keep up with a wicked pace in the BrCup Sprint...surely couldn't be that.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by Conrad

Yeah cuz it couldn't have anything to do with the fact that Rich Tapestry sat on a slow pace in his last race and tried to keep up with a wicked pace in the BrCup Sprint...surely couldn't be that.

You got me. It was the pace. The blood in his lungs had nothing to do with him finishing as he did. He could run at his highest level with blood in lungs as long as the pace cooperated.

That's the ticket.

[Conrad]

Do we know if he has bled in the past?
He's never run on Lasix and has backed out of it more than a few times.
Admittedly, he hasn't completely caved in like he did in the BrCup, but if he has a history of these problems AND faced a pace that was out of his league the result isn't a total mystery.

I just cannot presume that Lasix would have put him in the picture down the lane...and this comes from a guy that bet him on a few of my tickets.

Looked like he could be a star after beating some top notch runners in his USA debut.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Prime example?

You don't even know if the horse wouldn't have bled with Lasix being used, which happens more than you seem to realize.

Prime example?

If that's one of the best examples you can come up with, the pro Lasix camp has already lost.

i would direct you to the lasix study steve linked to on here a few weeks back.